Lox, bagel and cream cheese

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jmakinen
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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by jmakinen » Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:36 am

And, lox on a good bagel along with cream cheese is like taking a trip to Manhattan!
That's no minor statement! There's a tremendous amount of memory called up with a distinctive taste of various foods and drinks. A good bagel and Philadelpjhia will do it for 7th Avenue, Retsina for a restaurant patio on Crete, a lobster for crashing waves on the Maine coast, a good beer for a Keller in München, a good Brie on a baguette for Paris, a Mojito for Havana, etc, Sure adds a great dimension. And there's no way to have a bagel every day - there'd be no way to visit all the other places! :)



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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by AldenG » Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:16 pm

jmakinen wrote:
Retsina for a restaurant patio on Crete
Anybody happen to know what is the distinctively "thin" and dry class of red wine similar to Italian chianti that is popular in Greece?

I used to have that at a Greek restaurant in town and after they went out of business I couldn't remember what it was called.
As he persisted, I was obliged to tootle him gently at first and then, seeing no improvement, to trumpet him vigorously with my horn.


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by Bavarian » Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:49 pm

AldenG wrote:
jmakinen wrote:
Retsina for a restaurant patio on Crete
Anybody happen to know what is the distinctively "thin" and dry class of red wine similar to Italian chianti that is popular in Greece?
Google may not be your friend, but they offer a good starting point.

Why am I not surprised that there's a site called All About Greek Wine?


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by AldenG » Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:00 pm

Bavarian wrote: Google may not be your friend, but they offer a good starting point.
Google and me . . . I think we're "still friends," but she told me she thinks we've been spending too much time together and maybe we should get to know other people.
As he persisted, I was obliged to tootle him gently at first and then, seeing no improvement, to trumpet him vigorously with my horn.


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by Tiwaz » Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:34 am

jmakinen wrote:One will find food 'altered' that way EVERYplace - but the number of Scovilles is not really a parameter of taste in general - nor preferences. Mushy carrots are mushy globally - tough meat is always tough meat, pasty bread is always pasty bread - etc etc etc.
And are mushy carrots hated universally? Or perhaps some people like it that way...
Perhaps some people like tough meat. Etc etc etc.

Oh but there is only ONE true way for food to exist. One jmaki has and that's it!
Hopefully your concept of taste and preferences is not so one dimensional as to limit itself to chili quantity.
I think it is you who should widen his taste and preferences. And accept that other people just do not like the same things. And stop acting as if all preferences but yours are somehow inferior...


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by jmakinen » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:25 am

perhaps some people like it that way (mushy carrots)...
Perhaps some people like tough meat. Etc etc etc.
To each his own - bon appetit!
Oh but there is only ONE true way for food to exist. One jmaki has and that's it!
I think it is you who should widen his taste and preferences. And accept that other people just do not like the same things. And stop acting as if all preferences but yours are somehow inferior...
You really are DAFFY. I hardly support ONE TASTE - ONE WAY - might be one of the reasons I have about 1500 cookbooks and traveled to 60+ countries

But hey - if tough meat and mushy carrots float your boat - keep your daffiness with all its 'pleasures'


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by jmakinen » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:35 am

ps - btw
Hopefully your concept of taste and preferences is not so one dimensional as to limit itself to chili quantity.
With regard to your 'logic' - I can hardly see how your comment below - with your reference to the quote just above - has ANY RELEVANCE - I'm saying there is MORE to taste and preferences than quantities of chili - just COMPLETELY opposite of what you are saying - and to boot in no way saying liking more or less chili is inferior
I think it is you who should widen his taste and preferences. And accept that other people just do not like the same things. And stop acting as if all preferences but yours are somehow inferior...


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by Tiwaz » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:25 am

jmakinen wrote: To each his own - bon appetit!
See? What was so difficult in admitting that others might have differing tastes?
Now you have managed to make two concessions that you were wrong about.
First about food being altered to suit local preferences, and now you are admitting that others have valid preferences too.
You really are DAFFY. I hardly support ONE TASTE - ONE WAY - might be one of the reasons I have about 1500 cookbooks and traveled to 60+ countries

But hey - if tough meat and mushy carrots float your boat - keep your daffiness with all its 'pleasures'
Your collection of cookbooks and travelling does not mean you are not narrowminded, arrogant little ass who thinks his word is the holy truth in questions of food.

Apparently it has done just the opposite, considering your condescending attitude and way you present your own taste preferences as the "real" think. "Real" bagel being done in the way jmaki says it has to be made, "real" pasta being what jmaki says it is.

Your ego was in serious need of popping. Don't blame me if it hurt.
jmakinen wrote:ps - btw
ps- btw, there is handy "edit" function in board.
With regard to your 'logic' - I can hardly see how your comment below - with your reference to the quote just above - has ANY RELEVANCE - I'm saying there is MORE to taste and preferences than quantities of chili - just COMPLETELY opposite of what you are saying - and to boot in no way saying liking more or less chili is inferior
Your whole argument boils down to "Finns eat so bad, they do not know good stuff no matter how hard I have tried to force it down their throats".

That indeed means that there is only ONE way of doing things, your way. Only ONE set of "correct" taste, YOUR taste.

And you constantly are calling things preferred, or versions preferred, by Finns with derogatory expressions.

How is that not trying to imply that Finnish taste is not inferior to yours?


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by jmakinen » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:52 am


Your whole argument boils down to "Finns eat so bad, they do not know good stuff no matter how hard I have tried to force it down their throats".
OMG man - can't you read? - these forums are FILLED with how much Finland has CHANGED (or should we say WIDENED) their tastes over the last decades. And they are surely not only MY opinions. In fact they are also - significantly - the opinions of Buyers employed by the Supermarkets, etc. - and by probably thousands of restaurant owners - aside from the millions of consumers.

I cannot figure out what hobby horse you are trying to continually ride on.

And Geez - even the prime minister of Italy has opinions on this :roll:


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by jmakinen » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:05 pm

Your whole argument boils down to "Finns eat so bad, they do not know good stuff no matter how hard I have tried to force it down their throats".
And the articles I tried to introduce in the '70's are now being gobbled down by the container-ship loads! Yes - man - CHANGE - DEVELOPMENT - it happens! Welcome aboard if they'll let you out.


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by Upphew » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:55 pm

jmakinen wrote:And Geez - even the prime minister of Italy has opinions on this :roll:
I think every prime minister has opinions on this, some just seem to be more professional with them. He should tell his opinion in anonymous web forum instead of international news.
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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by jmakinen » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:26 pm

I think every prime minister has opinions on this, some just seem to be more professional with them. He should tell his opinion in anonymous web forum instead of international news.
Well the way to do it these days is for them to call the US Embassy - and then it will be distributed world-wide via Wikileaks.


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by llewellyn » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:13 pm

Well, you shouldn't be allowed to say "lox", it sounds very silly. Bagels are ok though.


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by tuulen » Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:29 am

Finland has salmon, and Finland has cream cheese, but now Finland needs a proper bagel, a bagel boiled and then baked.

You went fishing, and you caught a salmon, maybe a big one, but now what are you going to do with it?

You kill it, cut off its head, then you clean out all of its insides, and now you have a fish ready to eat.

You could cook it, but instead you could use a sharp knife and cut the salmon into thin slices.

It is known that thin slices of salmon taste good with cream cheese in a bread sandwich.

Yet, it turns out that the best kind of bread is a bagel, many kinds of bagels.

Salmon (tai lox), bagel and cream cheese, delightful!

A sprinkling of pepper is optional.

Ah, that is good!

Enjoy!


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Re: Lox, bagel and cream cheese

Post by AldenG » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:36 pm

tuulen wrote: You kill it, cut off its head, then you clean out all of its insides, and now you have a fish ready to eat.
Seems to be what eventually happened to this thread.
As he persisted, I was obliged to tootle him gently at first and then, seeing no improvement, to trumpet him vigorously with my horn.


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