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Malt vinegar - new

Post by harryc » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:28 pm

There's a thread on where one can find malt vinegar - but the thread is 10 yers old.

So - anyone found it in 2016?

I think I saw in Stockmann's last year but it had a price that looked more like it was priced as a malt whiskey!



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Post by Upphew » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:22 pm

harryc wrote:There's a thread on where one can find malt vinegar - but the thread is 10 yers old.

So - anyone found it in 2016?

I think I saw in Stockmann's last year but it had a price that looked more like it was priced as a malt whiskey!
Iirc it has been available in Lidl when they have had those country specific weeks. So watch out if they have British one.
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Re: Malt vinegar - new

Post by Beep_Boop » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:49 pm

After several months of looking, I ended up making my own. The only sh*tty part is waiting about 5-6 weeks for it to be ready, but after that it's effing delicious!
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Post by harryc » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:51 pm

I got 12L of Sarson's free-freight from AZ when they had their great 'over 25£' deal valid - but will run out one of these days - will keep looking.
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Re: Malt vinegar - new

Post by Beep_Boop » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:08 pm

12L should last you quite a bit :D
I'd still highly recommend starting a demijohn soonish. You'd have a whole lot of it in a month or so.
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Re: Malt vinegar - new

Post by harryc » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:27 pm

The 12L was from 2 years ago - and gave a number of bottles away.

What's the 'recipe?'


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Post by Beep_Boop » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:17 pm

There are multiple ways to make it. I'll tell you the easy way and the not-so-easy way.

Easy way:
- Get about 11 250mm bottles of unhopped (or low-hopped beer). Low alcohol Sahti is perfect for this!
- Put the beer in a 1 gallon demijohn.
- Add a about 250ml of unpasteurized apple vinegar.
- Cover the demijohn with paper towel and a rubber band.
- Leave for 1 month under the sink. Enjoy.

Not-so-easy way:
- Get 3.4L of unhopped beer.
- Put the beer in a 1 gallon sanitized demijohn (sanitizer can be acquired from brewing stores).
- Add a piece of "vinegar mother" (can be extracted from previous patches of vinegar, or purchased online).
- Cover the demijohn with cheese cloth.
- Leave for 3 months in a dark cool environment.
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Re: Malt vinegar - new

Post by harryc » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:47 pm

Thanks

I would prefer the apple vinegar method - but

I have 3L Rajamäki apple vinegar (FI) - label doesn't note if pasteurized or not - and can't say I've noticed any previous brands making note of that aspect.

Where from does one get 'unpasteurized?'


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Post by Beep_Boop » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:21 pm

I don't believe I've ever seen "unpasteurized" used on the labels. It's usually called "organic", "unfiltered", or something like that. You usually find them in hippy places like Punnitse ja säästä or the organic section in big stores. The reason you want unpasteurized/organic/unfiltered is because you want the tiny cute bacteria called AAB (the thing that will turn the alcohol in the beer into vinegar). AAB are usually reduced or even completely killed with filtering and pasteurization processes.
One example is this one http://www.vitaravinne.fi/omenaviinieti ... p-827.html
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Post by harryc » Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:39 pm

Yes - understood that pasteurization will bump off the stuff we want to develop the vinegar. It was just that hadn't seen any label indications of what buggers might still be there. But am sure you are right to give some of these organic types to earn their stripes. I'll drop into one of these 'eco-oases' and get them to swear the product contains 'animal life.'

It does bring up the question of what the vegan crew thinks about these products. :)


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Post by richard berman » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:37 pm

They sell it at Punnitse & Säästä 2.70 € a bottle
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They sell it at Punnitse & Säästä 2.70 € a bottle
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Post by harryc » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:25 pm

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Post by richard berman » Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:04 pm

Sarsons Malt Vinegar 250Ml
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Re: Malt vinegar - new

Post by harryc » Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:49 pm

Thanks

Another good example of Finnish price gouging

UK price is:

Sarsons Malt Vinegar 250Ml
£0.70


Hope no one tells about freight - difficult to get above 10% when commercial quantities are involved. Usually much less. And not a question of demand - iit's a good product which should not be any problem with 'Finnish taste' - they simply haven't had it available - been the same story with all kinds of chili stuff and whatever.


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