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mozy1312
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Kela card

Post by mozy1312 » Sun May 29, 2016 1:45 pm

Hi everybody.
i need quick advice for one case. In summary there is two divorced partner. They have one child and they have shared custody
the husband not finnish (Algerian). He has the right to take the child one week as summer vacation. The mother afraid that the husband might kidnapping the child. She doesn't want to give the kela card in case he use it as proof of identity and travel out of finland.

The question is : is it legal that she keep the kela card with her or the husband has the right to take the kela card during this vacation ?!

Thanks in advance for your appreciated quick advice.



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Beep_Boop
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Re: Kela card

Post by Beep_Boop » Sun May 29, 2016 4:50 pm

Kela card ia not a travel document.
If you think the man will kidnap the kids, then talk to the police.
Every case is unique. You can't measure the result of your application based on arbitrary anecdotes online.

mozy1312
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Re: Kela card

Post by mozy1312 » Sun May 29, 2016 5:13 pm

He said he wants to travel short vacation to norway thats why he asked kela card. The police said we can't do anything. They start to take action when he kidnapp the child not before :). For sure he always say he won't kidnapping but the info said something else.

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Re: Kela card

Post by rinso » Sun May 29, 2016 6:46 pm

If one of the parents wants to take a child abroad, the other parent has to give permission.
If he/she doesn't, the child cannot travel.
So the easiest thing is to refuse a foreign trip. (ergo no kela card needed)
It gets complicated if the custody agreement allows foreign visits.
He has the right to take the child one week as summer vacation.
(is this to his home country?)
But you can violate the agreement and force new negotiations if you have a good reason. (and kidnapping is)

We have seen many topics where one of the ex-partners is frustrating the other by refusing things already agreed upon. And there seems to be very little to do about it.

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Re: Kela card

Post by Rip » Mon May 30, 2016 3:58 am

Presumably the plan is to take a boat to Stockholm and continue from there, as is the only way operator could both A) ask for "ID" AND B) be satisfied with KELA card.


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