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[rinso]

He doesn't have to show the police anything. He's an EU citizen,

If he wants to register himself with the police (and so become entitled to all our social benefits ) he has to convince the police that he will not become a burden to society (i.e. showing a regular income).

We've already been through that... he doesn't qualify under any of the 3 criteria. He won't be entitled to any social benefits, save for access to healthcare which would be covered by the EHIC, I beleive for the first 12 months. After that ... nada.

Registering a right of residence


To register your right of residence, you will need:

an EU registration form
your national proof of identity or passport
in case of paid employment, a confirmation of the employment relationship or a certificate of employment from the employer
if the applicant is self-employed, information on their self-employment
from students, proof of being registered with a Finnish educational institution and having adequate health insurance cover
from other than employees and self-employed persons, information on means of support is required

[kiwijim]

DUDE! Get your arse on a plane and put that ring on your girl!

It's easy to move here, just make sure you get you Finnish basics and have insurance for 6 months.

[CarmenfromTexas]

This may sound like off the wall advice but try backpacking with your girlfriend, for 3 months, through Europe or the USA, etc. You'll be together every moment for 90 days and experience many frustrations along the way. If you don't want to kill each other by the end of it and still love each other then why not get married?
Be extremely pushy with TE-toimisto about getting into a Finnish language course for immigrants. After a year, you will speak Finnish like a retarded 3 year old but will be eligible for some crap jobs. A little money is better than no money, right? After that you can figure out what will be best for you as a career as you improve your language skills in Finnish.

Marriage is very difficult in the first few years, especially when you've moved to a new country. Be sure to bring infinite patience with you. Best of luck!

PS: The advice here may sound too gruff but people are telling you true as best they can. Respect the advice because many of us gained it by learning the hard way. The first year will seriously suck with all the paperwork, but each year become s l o w l y better.

[HarrietBeaumont]

Seriously these people are talking crap, why are they all saying these things?! You're English, you don't have to do anything :S Just move here, I did, I never told anyone.

If you rent a place your girlfriend can have all the bills in her name, you don't even need a social security number! I have rented a place with utilities included, and I use prepaid internet, there is no problem, if you can afford to live here and feed Finland's economy with your British money, do it, I am living proof it works It will be easier for you having a Finnish girlfriend, because she can do all of the things you can't do.

Just get travel insurance or something in case you get sick... Learn Finnish (like I am doing) get a job then work towards perminant citizenship when you're able The EU is wonderful

[llewellyn]

Let me tell you what is going to happen.

You are in 20s, and your lady is in her 18s. Now you both have some teenage dreams but reality is going to smash all of them of with a reality check hammer.

Well now, all this is likely, though not inevitable, unlikely things do happen in life. But would all this happening in Finland be a fate worse than death? The regular, tough life experiences that young people have to experience first hand (it doesn't really help to get them as second hand advice) will happen regardless of the place they live in. I think it would at least make it more interesting to have these wild, good and bad, experiences abroad. If you leave your native country you tend to see new things, have new perspectives. Wouldn't that be pretty valuable, actually, for a young person? So, why the hell not, I would say - go and take the plunge, and don't say that you weren't warned that the water might be icy with rocks near the surface...

[occelaris]

Here read my topic viewtopic.php?f=25&t=64230
Maybe not the best thing to read before you make a decision but it still turns out well at the end. And unlike what everyone is trying to convince you here, life will not stop. You will not die. And whatever the outcome is, your ability to be happy and experience new things won't seize to exist. Unless you choose to.In case that happens you can contact me in Finland and hopefully by that time I'll own a couch
All jokes aside. You seam like a nice guy . Sure you made friends in finland and think you have a wide social circle. But I guess those relationships you have are just superficial and won't be enough to keep you happy living in finland in-case of emergency unless you are going to tell me that there is something special about friendship with a fin that makes a bond way stronger then it would with a brit. Personally I find that difficult to believe.You say you'll do any job. That's grate but unfortunately if you are looking for a permanent home any job won't do.Instead a job that suits you best will mean a lot more to you than a job that is just something to do to survive.You sound like the only reason you are doing this is the girl.You know yourself the best and if you think that you are the person that will come out smiling even if the whole world has collapsed around him then go ahead and do this.I sure as hell will

[Rodwen]

I am living in England

You see the interesting thing is that you say you live in the UK but you don't mention being UK citizen. Are you? If not moving to Finland is a much more difficult process and nearly impossible if you aren't married to your gf.
If you are UK citizen, which everyone on here seemingly supposes, the process is easier but it's still no walk in the park. After three months you need a reason and having a finnish gf doesn't really count.

Either way, if you two are serious about being together, you'll end up getting married anyway, so why wait?

[HarrietBeaumont]

After three months you need a reason and having a finnish gf doesn't really count.

What are you talking about?! I rent a house in Finland and I spend as much time here as I want, I am a British citizen and no one has ever turned up at my house after 3 months with a deportation van Stop trying to scare him, moving to Finland is as easy as getting on a plane as long as you have money

[Upphew]

What are you talking about?! I rent a house in Finland and I spend as much time here as I want, I am a British citizen and no one has ever turned up at my house after 3 months with a deportation van Stop trying to scare him, moving to Finland is as easy as getting on a plane as long as you have money

Just make sure that your travel insurance is ok and you have proper touristy outfit all the time
Living ain't same as vacationing. Finns too must inform if they move, I can take a year long holiday in Hel, but I'd still had to pay tourist prices for everything and sossu would say "piss off!"

Btw, do you pay your property taxes from a house or summer house...

[kiwijim]

It's really easy to move here if you a British Citizen with an EU passport and money.

Take out some insurance or check you are covered with UK social heathcare service overseas

1. Take a flight to Finland
2. Move in with your partner
3. Head to the local police department asap to register yourself into the community (because your intention is to live here)
4. Wait for police to had you your police paper certificate
5. Head to the Registry Office asap to fill in papers to receive your unique ID number
6. Open bank account
7. Apply to Kela for Social card - You will most likely be turned down as there is a 6 month stand down period for EU members, as you belong to the UK social healthcare services. Your stand down date begins from the date your get your ID number.
You can also register at the MOL as a job seeker, so you can utilize their services.

This is as basic as it gets, also you driving license is valid here to, but if you want to obtain a Finnish one you need to hand over your UK one (they just hold on to it for you - like a swap, you get it back when you want it...ie travelling back to UK)

[interleukin]

If you had actually read the other posts in this thread, you´d see that number 3. on your list is really unlikely to be successful for the OP. The police will only register you if you have a good reason, the OP doesn´t.

[kiwijim]

If you had actually read the other posts in this thread, you´d see that number 3. on your list is really unlikely to be successful for the OP. The police will only register you if you have a good reason, the OP doesn´t.

This is exactly how I have moved to Finland, with a UK passport. I'm speaking from experience and only in the last 6 months, to co-habit with your partner is a legit reason and being from an EU country gives you right to reside in the country, advising the police is one of the requirements to stay.

[HarrietBeaumont]

Btw, do you pay your property taxes from a house or summer house...

It's rented I don't know anything about that but life isn't too expensive as a tourist, why would it be :-S

[biscayne]

Well, I find that extremely interesting - have the rules changed in the past 6 months. I tried to move to Finland to co-habit with my Finnish partner and the police would NOT register me, I was told you need to: already have a job, be married to a Finn, be in full-time education, or be able to proove that you have already co-habited with your Finnish partner for 2 years. As an EU citizen I could stay, but not be registered which precluded me from getting a social security number etc. Getting the number entitles you to health care, getting on the integration programme, possibly social welfare in certain situations, so it can be expensive for Finland if people just arrive and register. I could not. If you did, I find that very interesting.

[kiwijim]

Well, I find that extremely interesting - have the rules changed in the past 6 months. I tried to move to Finland to co-habit with my Finnish partner and the police would NOT register me, I was told you need to: already have a job, be married to a Finn, be in full-time education, or be able to proove that you have already co-habited with your Finnish partner for 2 years. As an EU citizen I could stay, but not be registered which precluded me from getting a social security number etc. Getting the number entitles you to health care, getting on the integration programme, possibly social welfare in certain situations, so it can be expensive for Finland if people just arrive and register. I could not. If you did, I find that very interesting.

I have been totally honest about how I have moved to Finland....all EU citizens have the ability to move to Finland under EU law without the need to be married, have a job or prove that you have co-habited under the EEA free movement agreement - Finnish website http://www.migri.fi/information_elsewhe ... c_citizens

I have no idea why you would be rejected by the Finnish police to register your rights/obligations under EU law ? I simply filled out the form and supplied my passport went with my partner to the police station, paid the fee and received my police confirmation letter. Once this is obtained, then you are able to apply for a Finnish ID number, you really need this ID number to live here (open bank/insurance/work/billing etc)!

Feel free to ask me any info...I'll try to help you out.