RumpaliPoika wrote:Whilst learning Finnish (through an accredited means) are their any benefits I'd be eligible for in Finland. Just trying to figure out if I can study Finnish 'full time' on a basic unemployment benefit/bursary or something of that ilk. Or would I need to study Finnish in my own time and work? I know it seems like I am being rather presumptuous but just after information, I am happy to work and am not expecting 'free money' etc. just trying to find out what's available to an EU citizen on moving here.
podzap wrote:Any person who comes to Finland expecting money from the government should be deported. I've lived here almost half of my life and I've been through good times, bad times, etc, but have never once asked the government for money. That's the way it should be.
PJG wrote:If you think it's some kind of 'badge of honour' to pay taxes and then burn through your savings or whatever, refusing to ask for access to the benefits your taxes fund in the first place (out of a misplaced sense of pride), you could quite rightly be labelled as a fool.
There are agreements in place between various EU member states to provide access to unemployment benefits / job seekers allowances if all your stamps are paid up in your home country. I expect, based on the ignorant tone of your response that you are equally ignorant of this fact.
podzap wrote:It is actually illegal in Finland to attempt to claim social benefits while having money in the bank, owning an apartment or a car, etc. The authorities can see your bank account balances and will deny you access to benefits until the cash is gone and a minimum of 3 months have passed.
podzap wrote:In this country, hiding money in a foreign account (or a pile of cash under your mattress) while attempting to claim benefits (this crime is called "defrauding the government") can land you with more jail time than murder.
podzap wrote:If you are on benefits and for some reason the police search you (maybe you are drunk and disorderly, or participating in a protest against the police) and find a large amount of cash in your wallet, they cash will be confiscated and you will go to jail pending prosecution for defrauding the government.
podzap wrote:There's nothing ignorant about my response. I have read great portions of the laws, multiple times, and I understand them well. I also follow the news quite sharply, and I have seen the flavor of the prosecution style in action over a long period of time.
podzap wrote:One thing is true: If your residence permit is based on anything else than family ties, and you ask the government for social benefits then you can forget the chance of obtaining citizenship by application, like forever. Even if the residence permit is based on family ties and you have asked the government for more than a very minimal amount of social benefits, your application can be denied. EU agreement or no, does not matter.
podzap wrote:There are people in this country, native Finns, who are surviving on 2 EUR of food money per day and then a foreigner wants to move here and study on social benefits?
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