Finnish Immigration Service:Notorious and Racist Immigration

[Rip]

My parents were married before having me so I am not a bastard.

Yes, unfortunately here we have stricter laws on that.

Well, let us not be too harsh on, how would he have known that a marriage between siblings is not allowed here...?

[natakene]

My parents were married before having me so I am not a bastard.

Yes, unfortunately here we have stricter laws on that.

Well, let us not be too harsh on, how would he have known that a marriage between siblings is not allowed here...?

Hah people live in a box called Finland and have no clue of what is happening outside nor the outsiders can know what is REALLY hapening in Finland! What a hole is this "perfect place to live" called Finland!

[pierrot]

Hah people live in a box called Finland and have no clue of what is happening outside nor the outsiders can know what is REALLY hapening in Finland! What a hole is this "perfect place to live" called Finland!

And yet YOU want to live here....

[Mog-boy]

True ... I have been Waiting 1 year and half to move my wife in Finland and still, I didn't get and decision, when we call they says " we are in Que " and still under process , that is what we say Indirect Racism ,

[natakene]

Hah people live in a box called Finland and have no clue of what is happening outside nor the outsiders can know what is REALLY hapening in Finland! What a hole is this "perfect place to live" called Finland!

And yet YOU want to live here....

People do stay despite all the " advantages ".
I really am not going to stay here ALL my life... There is no future for me here, at least now, I dont see it...

[Tiwaz]

But is there no future for you because you have no worth for Finland?

Ask yourself that some evening when you feel unusually honest about yourself.
Are you a person who can contribute to the society more than take away from it in the way society is NOW...
Instead of requiring society to change it's language, culture and other aspects to fit what you have to offer to become productive.

[natakene]

But is there no future for you because you have no worth for Finland?

Ask yourself that some evening when you feel unusually honest about yourself.
Are you a person who can contribute to the society more than take away from it in the way society is NOW...
Instead of requiring society to change it's language, culture and other aspects to fit what you have to offer to become productive.

If I had time I would really tell u the whole story... Let me be brief: Language, integration is no problem for me as I came here just after estonian high school. To learn the language and integrate plus really know who finnish people are took me 3 months! the rest of the times I was fighting against them trying all the ways to have the work and Coolidge I want, but still these people they dont leave me alone! For them its enough to see your name or the first mistake/not really finnish way part in your written text to say; NEXT.
So please dont tell me how and why all of this is happening I know it already!

[Tiwaz]

If I had time I would really tell u the whole story... Let me be brief: Language, integration is no problem for me as I came here just after estonian high school.

Finnish and Estonian are not THAT similar.

To learn the language and integrate plus really know who finnish people are took me 3 months!

Right... Because it is just that easy. I doubt this.

the rest of the times I was fighting against them trying all the ways to have the work and Coolidge I want, but still these people they dont leave me alone!

Perhaps in Estonia it is different, but over here it is employer who decides what employees they want.
Very few of them have need for high school graduates (without professional skills of worth).

For them its enough to see your name or the first mistake/not really finnish way part in your written text to say; NEXT.

So now the language is not such a breeze if you make mistakes? I thought you were fluent after 3 months...

So please dont tell me how and why all of this is happening I know it already!

Yup. And I have good guess on what is your issue. You came here head filled with assumptions, then made mistake of assuming that your assumptions are actually facts.

Your language most likely is not fluent, you have no useful education (high school does not make you qualified to anything) but have very high opinions of yourself (people daring to stand in the way between you and job/education you want!)...

In short, you have attitude issues which make you fail constantly.

[natakene]

If I had time I would really tell u the whole story... Let me be brief: Language, integration is no problem for me as I came here just after estonian high school.

Finnish and Estonian are not THAT similar.

To learn the language and integrate plus really know who finnish people are took me 3 months!

Right... Because it is just that easy. I doubt this.

the rest of the times I was fighting against them trying all the ways to have the work and Coolidge I want, but still these people they dont leave me alone!

Perhaps in Estonia it is different, but over here it is employer who decides what employees they want.
Very few of them have need for high school graduates (without professional skills of worth).

Why u are protecting them? U don't know a thing of what and how happened nor my skills. When I talk about high school I mean that I was young, when I talk about mistakes made in a text a talk about the fact that every language has it's own way, and to perfectly learn it would take longer time than I had then. I took Finnish courses for 3 months then had immediately the job I wanted and now I am learning in ammattikoulu in Finnish have passed yki intermediate test perfectly ...
In any case I was not telling about my problems integrating in Finland, I was talking about how Finnish people welcome foreigners if u still did not understand!

For them its enough to see your name or the first mistake/not really finnish way part in your written text to say; NEXT.

So now the language is not such a breeze if you make mistakes? I thought you were fluent after 3 months...

So please dont tell me how and why all of this is happening I know it already!

Yup. And I have good guess on what is your issue. You came here head filled with assumptions, then made mistake of assuming that your assumptions are actually facts.

Your language most likely is not fluent, you have no useful education (high school does not make you qualified to anything) but have very high opinions of yourself (people daring to stand in the way between you and job/education you want!)...

In short, you have attitude issues which make you fail constantly.

[Tiwaz]

And your response would be?

That you ARE fluent in written and spoken Finnish after 3 months?
Give us a sample. By the way, employers tend to expect that people put effort to their application. That is why glaring errors in written form can be bad for your success. If you can't be arsed to check three times what you wrote for errors when trying to apply for a job... How much effort you put into actual work?

And again, lack of professional skills is handicap in everything. High school graduate is not a job qualification.
Schools in turn have wonderfully transparent system on grading the applicants. If you can't get in, it means you had less points than last guy who got in.

And finally, you are missing the point that we have been in serious economical slump for over a year. Companies are still very careful in recruiting new people.

So, all in all, you are blaming your own shortcomings and general economical situation on Finns being racist.
Think what it tells about your attitude.

[natakene]

And your response would be?

That you ARE fluent in written and spoken Finnish after 3 months?
Give us a sample. By the way, employers tend to expect that people put effort to their application. That is why glaring errors in written form can be bad for your success. If you can't be arsed to check three times what you wrote for errors when trying to apply for a job... How much effort you put into actual work?

And again, lack of professional skills is handicap in everything. High school graduate is not a job qualification.
Schools in turn have wonderfully transparent system on grading the applicants. If you can't get in, it means you had less points than last guy who got in.

And finally, you are missing the point that we have been in serious economical slump for over a year. Companies are still very careful in recruiting new people.

So, all in all, you are blaming your own shortcomings and general economical situation on Finns being racist.

Can u at least sometimes reed?

I had no problems integrating in Finland, I am not telling that I could not fond job cause of any reason, ime not telling that my Finnish was perfect after 3 month and I know well enough how companies recrute people!
What I am telling is what I noticed in Finnish people generally and how it influence my life in here! Before writing u better read well and/or use a dictionary bit not guess what it might be written!
Think what it tells about your attitude.

[Tiwaz]

How about trying to pay attention to how you use quotes.

Hunting what you wrote from what someone else wrote when you just bag it all in one huge quote is very annoying.

Why u are protecting them?

Because you are presenting extremely stupid demands.

U don't know a thing of what and how happened nor my skills. When I talk about high school I mean that I was young, when I talk about mistakes made in a text a talk about the fact that every language has it's own way, and to perfectly learn it would take longer time than I had then.

You have not told you have any skills. And having fluency in local language means just that. If you say you are fluent, then you HAVE to be fluent.

If you can't write without errors, then employer has to take that into consideration. They cannot trust you not to make same errors when they matter (IE, reading instructions wrong and causing damage)

I took Finnish courses for 3 months then had immediately the job I wanted and now I am learning in ammattikoulu in Finnish have passed yki intermediate test perfectly ...

Good for you. So now you are obtaining some vocational skills. And intermediate is not fluent.

In any case I was not telling about my problems integrating in Finland, I was talking about how Finnish people welcome foreigners if u still did not understand!

And how should we welcome foreigners? With flower petals thrown at their feet and cheering crowds arranged along with parade? Specially ones who have little to offer until we have wasted valuable hours in educating them to be able to do something...

You came to Finland. Fine. It is not OUR job to make you succeed, it is YOURS. You are entitled to no special treatment.

Can u at least sometimes reed?

Quotes... Start with (quote) and end with (/quote) (replace ( with [ and ) with ] )
Makes it much easier to read.

I had no problems integrating in Finland, I am not telling that I could not fond job cause of any reason, ime not telling that my Finnish was perfect after 3 month and I know well enough how companies recrute people!

Do you? You were the one who told he/she had to fight to get jobs. And apparently considered it to be racist!

Over here we call it competition.

What I am telling is what I noticed in Finnish people generally and how it influence my life in here! Before writing u better read well and/or use a dictionary bit not guess what it might be written!.

So you are not fluent in Finnish, and your English appears to be more atrocious than mine. Think about a moment what that "racism" you met was. Was it "racism" or you just preferring to think that Finns were racist because else you have to admit that you just do not have what it takes?

[rinso]

Can u at least sometimes reed?

I had no problems integrating in Finland, I am not telling that I could not fond job cause of any reason, ime not telling that my Finnish was perfect after 3 month and I know well enough how companies recrute people!
What I am telling is what I noticed in Finnish people generally and how it influence my life in here! Before writing u better read well and/or use a dictionary bit not guess what it might be written!
Think what it tells about your attitude.

I'm with Tiwaz on this. Your problems seem to be caused by your own background/education/attitude. It just seems you don't fit in here.

[natakene]

Tiwy I'm riting everything with my phone so have no time to check wether quote is made well, intermediate language test was made after the few month finishing my course, I don't talk about making mistakes In my job aplication, I'm telling what I think fins do with them. My English is checked by the phone and I don't check after writing! This isn't a English language test in here! And even if I wrote perfectly u would not understand what I'm writing.
Finnish are the most rasist people I've ever seen this far. I hope for them to change at least a little bit.

I wish u all a happy new year and stop to explain that u don't understand English, instead u find nonsense to say to protect ur Finnish people!

If u never experience ull never understand nor see, and will waste ur time defending in stead of trying to change something!

[natakene]

Rinse have u red everything from the beginning?
Again I had no problems in integrating in Finland! My education attitude and all the rest u have no idea about and better think of what I wrote and not answer stupid things.
If I talk about Finnish people it means I have experience living in here! It does not mean that I've experienced problems it meand that "this is how I see finnish people" and it means that if they don't change (thinking that foreigners come here for Finnish money, to not to work but beg, and don't belong here!

Everybody belong anywhere they want to be, like it or not!