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Pursuivant
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by Pursuivant » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:20 pm
switchblade327 wrote:
Well it was a civilized start. You get the answers you deserve.
And you get to decide what people deserve?
Never heard of "The forest echoes your own sound?"
OK, Yeah, right-o, I keep up a list titled "Deservance"... lets see now... switch... switcblade327. there it is: You evidently deserve to have someone piss into your cheerios. Any more stupid questions while you're at it?
"By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes."
Re: Black People in Finland
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rinso
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by rinso » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:29 pm
In the countryside people are divided into two groups:
1- Locals (with it sub group; local drunks)
2- outsiders (tourists, big city dwellers, immigrants)
colour has nothing to do in group you end up, only your attitude and will to integrate.
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Pursuivant
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by Pursuivant » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:33 pm
Do mökkiläiset fall in as 1 or 2 tho? I guess that depends.
"By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes."
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sammy
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by sammy » Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:24 pm
Pursuivant wrote:Do mökkiläiset fall in as 1 or 2 tho? I guess that depends.
They fall in between, being "regularly visiting drunkards"
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tizlit
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by tizlit » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:24 pm
How is the measure scale for being "coloured" - have noticed that anyone slightly more "tanned" is being labelled coloured?
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switchblade327
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by switchblade327 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:37 pm
Pursuivant wrote:switchblade327 wrote:
Well it was a civilized start. You get the answers you deserve.
And you get to decide what people deserve?
Never heard of "The forest echoes your own sound?"
OK, Yeah, right-o, I keep up a list titled "Deservance"... lets see now... switch... switcblade327. there it is: You evidently deserve to have someone piss into your cheerios. Any more stupid questions while you're at it?
Wow.
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EP
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by EP » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:32 pm
While I understand that you will see black people on the streets in places like Helsinki, I still would imagine that it will be a lot fewer than say in a major US city or even in a rural town in the US. Thats moreso my concern. Would even a city like Helsinki be a lot whiter than the average US city or rural town for me?
It would be quite odd if there were similar amounts of black people in Finland as in the US. Finns never practised lucrative shipping from Senegal and Gambia.
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AldenG
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by AldenG » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:47 pm
Pursuivant wrote:He can tell you how things were then he was not the 2% he was one of the two African-Americans in the whole country.
Now you remind me that I happened to meet Eugene Holman before I had such a concept as Eugene Holman -- which formed only later, from Usenet and maybe a book or two (I'd have to dig into some cupboards), and didn't he create or design or review Finnmorf?
A total of two, you say? Then the other would be the guy I ran into a couple of times but didn't get into conversation with (because I never did engage Americans or Brits in conversation back then) who ran a Burger King franchise at the triangle block on Kaisaniemenkatu and also ran a little corn dog business that showed up at places like the Conference Center.
As he persisted, I was obliged to tootle him gently at first and then, seeing no improvement, to trumpet him vigorously with my horn.
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EP
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by EP » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:56 pm
Race doesn not really have any role in Finland, culture does. For example in 1996 Finns voted a Nigerian-Finnish girl to be Miss Finland. Born and raised in Finland, grown into Finnish way of life: She wa just a pretty girl, not a pretty black girl.
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Pursuivant
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by Pursuivant » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:08 pm
AldenG wrote:A total of two, you say?
Well in 1966 when he came here? There could've been a couple more, but the fact was "everybody knew everybody" more or less in the 1970's still. Helsinki is "Cosmopolitan" these days.
BTW Eugene makes all "Finnish is so hard" people weep:
I came to Finland in August and by November I was able to write exams in Finnish, so I learned the language pretty quickly.
OK so hes a prodigy but anyways...
"By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes."
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by onkko » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:19 pm
Pursuivant wrote:AldenG wrote:A total of two, you say?
Well in 1966 when he came here? There could've been a couple more, but the fact was "everybody knew everybody" more or less in the 1970's still. Helsinki is "Cosmopolitan" these days.
Delta Rhythm Boys probably doubled amount of negroes in finland when they visited
Here is ad in early 70s they made for halva
Caesare weold Graecum, ond Caelic Finnum
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AldenG
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by AldenG » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:30 pm
Pursuivant wrote:
OK so hes a prodigy but anyways...
Considering his contributions I don't doubt the characterization.
But note that he does not state that his arrival in August was his first exposure to the language. Presumably his arrival at the airport was not an unanticipated emergency landing due to mechanical failure en route to Canada or anything of that sort
Someone like Rob A or Tuulen who studies the language diligently for an extended time without live exposure to Finns and then shows up in Helsinki might also become orally conversant or capable of passing written exams within a matter of months.
As he persisted, I was obliged to tootle him gently at first and then, seeing no improvement, to trumpet him vigorously with my horn.
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Pursuivant
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by Pursuivant » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:41 pm
True he was on a Fulbright scholaship, he'd started probably from books but then got a Finnish pen-friend in 1958, so thats a good 8 years of self-study
"By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes."
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elja
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by elja » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:13 pm
Well I have three of them which is my friend now...from cuba,angola and cameroon....
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by Richard » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:09 pm
sammy wrote:Pursuivant wrote:Do mökkiläiset fall in as 1 or 2 tho? I guess that depends.
They fall in between, being "regularly visiting drunkards"
That made me laugh