Options for moving to Finland

[hamification]

I am in a relationship with a Finn for close to two years now. We haven't met in real life yet, though there are plans of doing so as soon as we get the funds. I wanna be with him and live in Finland but I am clueless at what to do. I'm from the Philippines and have no idea how it can work out for us. I'd rather have us be together in Finland without getting married first. He can't stay here since a student. We are low on funds so I don't really wanna travel a lot. I have a lot of questions, and I hope someone can answer them for me.

1. How easy it is for a Filipino to get a visa to go to Finland for vacation? Aside from enough money for plane tickets, do I have to have a certain amount of money in my bank account to make me eligible for a visa? I do have enough money for plane tickets. According to the Finnish embassy website to the Philippines, "In general, according to the local Schengen practice in the Philippines, we do not issue visas to applicants who have not met his/her host." Do I need a host? Can I just say I'm going for a vacation?

2. Given question 1, would us meeting here be an easier option for us?

3. Re: question 1, if I'm successful in going to Finland and want to stay there, do I have options so I can stay there without having to go back to my country? Should I just get a job there first and apply for residency? I do have a degree. Note that we're probably not gonna get married.

4. I'm 20 years old and have a degree from my country. Is studying in Finland an option for me? How much funds do I need to be a student in Finland? What should I do?

5. So what's the best way to do this? We meet first, be apart again, and work on being together? Or is there a chance we can be together in Finland for long term in our first meeting? Either by me being a student there, or working?

Basically, I'm finding a way to be in Finland with my boyfriend, either by studying or working there. I really just need options right now. We're low on funds and have never met before, so we don't wanna rush into getting married right away. I realize that that's one of the easier ways for us to stay together but he's not willing to do it. I'm very confused and getting hopeless about this. :\ Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[Kutittaa]

Visa is for visiting, residency permit is for residing.

1. 'Easy' isn't the right word. It isn't exactky 'hard' but it definitely isn't 'easy' in your case. You're from a High-risk country and all that. Without marriage it's basically impossible. You can't work in Finland without being married. You have no ties to Finland and unless you are married to a Finn then Finland does not give a sh!t about you and what you would like to do.

2. Meeting where? Philippines? Well if you actually MET each other before hand then yes it would be a good idea because it will make your relationship look less fake. But hey this is only if you marry anyway and you said that you aren't going to marry. So answering any of these questions is pretty much a waste of anyone's time because the only 2 options open for you in staying here over a 3 month Visa is you either enrolling as a student and getting in (not likely) or marrying which you won't do. Other than that if you don't do either of those things you will be back to Philippines after 3 months and Finland will be just that bit richer after taking the money you spent in living here for that time.

3. No because you will not marry. You will not be sucessful doing anything if you do not marry. If you come as a student you cannot work properly, like pretty much at all. If you do neither marry or come as a student as I said before you cannot work or do sh!t except for holiday. Stop being such a dumbass and actually learn your !"#¤% before you start asking dumb questions... you have your options laid out for you. Pick one or just be friends with this Finn.

4. You could study sure but don't expect to be able to make any money except to basically just cover eating day-by-day. Especially without knowing Finnish. You're pertty much at the bottom of the barrel with all the 'others' who are in the worst situation possible.. You should have unlimited funds if you expect to live here as a student and be unable to make any sort of income (because of student visa restrictions).

5. You can't do !"#¤% and this all sounds dumber and dumber by the minute because you won't marry and being a student means you must have unlimited funds somehow because you can't basically work more than like a few hours which is @#$% all and won't cover anything at all.

Also you're 'low on funds' and 'have never met before'.

You're pretty much completely screwed. I think it's funny that you're talking like you have options when you don't even obviously realise that you have basically 0 options.
Also it's not one of the 'easier ways' to marry. It's hard as hell, and it's basically the ONLY way if you cannot prove 2 years of cohabitational conduct.

So yeah, it's hopeless. Without that I couldn't bother explaining anything else, I'll leave that up to others.

[hamification]

Thanks for your reply. Like I said, I'm absolutely clueless on what to do. We are planning on meeting soon. But since we haven't met, thinking of getting married is premature so I specified that. I just thought there is a way to be in Finland without getting married. Apparently, there is no way.

There really is no chance of getting a job in Finland from abroad?

[rinso]

There really is no chance of getting a job in Finland from abroad?

Unless you have a profession where you'll be head hunted, I would say your chances are close to zero.

low on funds,... never met,...do not want to marry

This indeed sounds like a mission impossible.
If you really want to come here, let your boyfriend take action and make it work for you. Depending on how much effort he puts in it, you can judge his commitment to the relation.

[hamification]

There really is no chance of getting a job in Finland from abroad?

Unless you have a profession where you'll be head hunted, I would say your chances are close to zero.

low on funds,... never met,...do not want to marry

This indeed sounds like a mission impossible.
If you really want to come here, let your boyfriend take action and make it work for you. Depending on how much effort he puts in it, you can judge his commitment to the relation.

What kind of jobs will have, even a bit of possibility, can a foreigner get hired in Finland?

[interleukin]

What kind of jobs will have, even a bit of possibility, can a foreigner get hired in Finland?

Have a look at www.mol.fi and look at the adverts that are in English.

Your problem is that you both need to find a job where you don't need Finnish/Swedish, and you need to convince the authorities that there is not a single person in the whole of EU that can do the job.

[Upphew]

What kind of jobs will have, even a bit of possibility, can a foreigner get hired in Finland?

Any kind if s/he is already in Finland with RP.

If on the other hand you try to get RP based on work, then the employer must first check if there is talent available in Finland and EU. If those fail then they can start the paperwork to import the worker from outside the EU. Do the math: how likely it is there isn't anyone in EU willing and able to work on the job you seek? As rinso said, you will know if you have the skills needed to get RP based on work.

[Rip]

4. I'm 20 years old and have a degree from my country. Is studying in Finland an option for me? How much funds do I need to be a student in Finland? What should I do?

How about telling what that degree is? Studying is possible if you can get accepted to school and can show funds for 6000/year + health insurance (part time work is then allowed). Work permit for most educational backgrounds is probably quite difficult.

[hamification]

4. I'm 20 years old and have a degree from my country. Is studying in Finland an option for me? How much funds do I need to be a student in Finland? What should I do?

How about telling what that degree is? Studying is possible if you can get accepted to school and can show funds for 6000/year + health insurance (part time work is then allowed). Work permit for most educational backgrounds is probably quite difficult.

I have a degree in Mathematics. I know it doesn't mean anything in Finland, but I did go to one of the best universities in the country.

[tuulen]

I have a degree in Mathematics. I know it doesn't mean anything in Finland, but I did go to one of the best universities in the country.

Technology is a MAJOR component of Finland's economy, and mathematics is a MAJOR component of technology, good for you! I am an engineer and I once worked closely with several ethnic Chinese who would sometimes leave otherwise incomprehensible notes to each other on our bulletin board, written in Chinese, BUT I could understand EVERYTHING written in mathematical terms that they said to each other! And Finland speaks the SAME mathematical language! That gives you something substantial to work with. ;-)

[Rip]

I have a degree in Mathematics. I know it doesn't mean anything in Finland, but I did go to one of the best universities in the country.

Which level? Almost all of the university graduates have master's here. If you'd want to study here, the application period for most of the entrance level university students is now, ending 3rd of April. My (limited) understanding of employment situation of mathematics graduates is that apart from teacher's positions (because of language issue probably not for you) and university researchers (that must be relatively limited in number), there is a "steady" intake in banking, insurance business, public sector statistical operations and then some in industry, perhaps often helped by having done a thesis of a topic of their interest. Then there is of course plenty of areas in natural sciences, engineering and finance where the good mathematics skills can be a major asset both for actually doing the job, and also if you restart from undergraduate level to get the studies done speedily.

[hamification]

I have a degree in Mathematics. I know it doesn't mean anything in Finland, but I did go to one of the best universities in the country.

Which level? Almost all of the university graduates have master's here. If you'd want to study here, the application period for most of the entrance level university students is now, ending 3rd of April. My (limited) understanding of employment situation of mathematics graduates is that apart from teacher's positions (because of language issue probably not for you) and university researchers (that must be relatively limited in number), there is a "steady" intake in banking, insurance business, public sector statistical operations and then some in industry, perhaps often helped by having done a thesis of a topic of their interest. Then there is of course plenty of areas in natural sciences, engineering and finance where the good mathematics skills can be a major asset both for actually doing the job, and also if you restart from undergraduate level to get the studies done speedily.

I only have a bachelor's degree. My degree is actually mathematics, major in actuarial science, so my strength is in insurance. My undergrad thesis is also about insurance. Is there a chance I get a job in that field?

[Rip]

I only have a bachelor's degree. My degree is actually mathematics, major in actuarial science, so my strength is in insurance. My undergrad thesis is also about insurance. Is there a chance I get a job in that field?

I'd think you'd still need both local language skills and some knowledge of Finnish/European legislation.

I do not know the area, but if I were you'd I'd try to get a master's here. If you can find suitable Master's course that you can get in that would be great. If you'd start officially from scratch, there is typically no mandatory attendance to be on lectures, so if you know the stuff to pass many of the basic level examinations directly, you can do that. Here a major problem is that the dominant language of teaching especially at the bachelor's level is Finnish (or Swedish).

[hamification]

I only have a bachelor's degree. My degree is actually mathematics, major in actuarial science, so my strength is in insurance. My undergrad thesis is also about insurance. Is there a chance I get a job in that field?

I'd think you'd still need both local language skills and some knowledge of Finnish/European legislation.

I do not know the area, but if I were you'd I'd try to get a master's here. If you can find suitable Master's course that you can get in that would be great. If you'd start officially from scratch, there is typically no mandatory attendance to be on lectures, so if you know the stuff to pass many of the basic level examinations directly, you can do that. Here a major problem is that the dominant language of teaching especially at the bachelor's level is Finnish (or Swedish).

There's still a big problem about funding for me though. I'd need a lot of money, like one commenter said. Unlimited funds because I can't work in Finland even if I studied there.

[Upphew]

I can't work in Finland even if I studied there.

Do your homework: http://www.migri.fi/studying_in_finland ... employment