Question about Kela and resident permit

[grmmph]

Thats clear enoght, thanks a lot.

[kotimaa]

Hey,
My girlfriend is not a student and she is intend to work in finland and get a resident permit, but not a permanent resident. Will she eligble to get the health services from the municipality?

In order to get resident permit,you have to be employed with a long-term job;at least 2 year.
I don't know if you girlfriend is european citizen,but is she is not,I think that she need some other permit to live in Finland.

[tizlit]

Rip was pointing out previously about EU rules, but I would concentrate rules and law of Finland, as there are cases, for example taxation, where Finland practises double taxation, which is illegal and against EU regulations.

Does religious issue re getting married weigh so much for you - you could simplify your situation by getting married prior to arriving here. As Pursuivant pointed out, and I agree with him.

[interleukin]

Hmm.. we both don't belive in religious marridge. I guess it's a principle.

You do know that marriage does not have to be in any way a religious thing, right? There does not need to be any church involved (in Finland, you go to the Magistrate and they marry you without any religion involved). This is something that feels strange to many people from more religious countries, but I really think this is the only way for you two to get a good start here, by being married.

[Pursuivant]

Hey guys, go read that wikipedia article on Israeli marriage - there is no civilian marriage in Israel And thus no interfaith marriage... what the people do is due to some loophole, Paraguay allows marriage by proxy, so the people can go marry in the Paraguayan consulate in Tel Aviv, and as "foreign civil marriages" are recognised...

[interleukin]

messed-up countries. no wonder people want to move here.

[grmmph]

That's intersting thing about Paraguay. I did not knew that so I have checked. (reference:http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%90%D7%99_%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%92%D7%95%D7%95%D7%90%D7%99, in hebrew, but you can google translate it.)

It is said that Paraguaian marrige used to be very popular back at the days, untill the local authorities changed the law, so it can be done only if at least one of the partenrs are in Paraguaian Teritory.

And for something completely different: Is anyone know if my girlfriend can apply for KELA card if she is self-employed in Finalnd, and what's the terms for that?

Thanks again.

[kotimaa]

Yes she can apply to Kela as self-employed,but she need to have registered business(any kind of)
After 4 mounth of this business she can apply and Kela will process it.
The process may need even 4 mounth of time and the results can be negative.

[Rosamunda]

Only residents of the EEA can start a business in Finland (actually non-EEA residents can start a business in Finland but they need a trade permit), so your girlfriend would have to obtain residency before she could start a business, or get a trade permit. Private entrepreneurs also need to contribute towards YEL (obligatory pension scheme) and a few other things, as well as KELA. It would be much easier if your girlfriend was a student too.

IMO private health insurance from a Swiss insurance company is the easiest way forwards.

[kotimaa]

Ok as Swiss cityzen you are free to move to Finland;but in order to get residance permit,you must have some job and after 4 month
apply for Kela.
The process may take couple of months and results may be limited or in some cases negative.
You will not get Kela card if you live in Finland without job and taxes.

[tummansininen]

I think others have already noted why self-employed probably won't work for her, unless she has savings which demonstrate she can support herself (around 7 560 per year atm).

As the partner of an EU/EEU citizen you might have to show the evidence of the relationship (two years cohabitation if you are not yet married when she arrives). It will also probably mean you have to show how you'll support her - so can you show income or savings of €13 560 per year (one student at 6k, plus one adult at 7 560)?

Technically family members of EU/EEU are supposed to be treated equally to Finns, so perhaps she's meant to be exempt from the income test, but it's not realistically the case :/ Even I was asked before getting my permit, and I'm an EU citizen. Migri doesn't even make it very clear in English, so maybe someone can try and find it in Finnish for you to clear it up.