British girl hoping to move to finland

[kotimaa]

We move to Finland 2 years ago(more or less).
I went to Edupoli school for 14 month to study finnish and my level is poor;2 on 5.
I cannot understand TV or people un the bus or supermarket.Only some words here and there.
maybe 'cause I do not have strong motivations. At first all seems easy and interesting,but
if you start to work you only think to your salary andI never knew anyone interested in their work.
Anyway,the Finns are a people of few words.
They are talking nonsense when drunk and don't understand what you say.And you cannot understand
what they say
But if you want to work with people, for example in hospital, you have to speak very well.

[Carlylarly]

How do you get by living in a country that you can't speak or understand the language of? Is it difficult?

Do you work?

[tuulen]

Many Finns do speak English, especially younger Finns, and so communication in English often is possible.

But employment in Finland is another matter, and a nurse in Finland needs to speak Finnish.

Indeed, there are places in Finland where English is a far distant language.

Tervetuloa Suomeen!

[Carlylarly]

I remember when I was on placement in the hospital I was sat outside the endoscopy room waiting for my mentor and an elderly finnish lady sat opposite me. The lady was talking to me in finnish and I told her I didn't speak finnish, but she carried on. My mentor came out of the room and spoke to me in english and I then had a 10 minute conversation in english with the finnish lady

[tuulen]

United Nations recognizes six of the world's languages as being prominent; Arabic, Chinese (Mandarin), English, French, Russian and Spanish, and notice that Finnish is not on the UN list of prominent languages. Indeed, there is a saying in Finland, that Finns must learn everybody else's languages because nobody else learns Finnish. But that does not mean Finns are about to give up speaking Finnish, and so your opportunities to become employed as a nurse in Finland are much better if you could speak Finnish fluently.

[Kutittaa]

Whether or not Finns speak English means nothing when you want to work... you need to speak Finnish unless you're a genius in a field of non-Finnish whatever and you would be hired in English/<Insert your native tongue here> anyway.

[Carlylarly]

Damn it, i am not a genius!!

[tuulen]

Damn it, i am not a genius!!

@ Carly

Just remember the saying, that Finnish is not difficult but is just different.

Different? Oh, yes! But Finnish really is a very well organized language, beyond all of the differences.

Indeed, there are those of us who find Finnish so delightful that we gladly persist to learn it.

Finnish is a language which allows communication at "lightning" speed, faster than you might believe.

Frankly, Finnish makes English seem ploddingly slow, as you will discover.

[Kutittaa]

Damn it, i am not a genius!!

@ Carly
Just remember the saying, that Finnish is not difficult but is just different.

How about this. Finnish is different AND difficult.

[Pursuivant]

Its difficult if you're a thick adult , any 5-year old in kindergarten is fluent in Finnish

[tuulen]

Quite contrary to English, Finnish grammar has relatively few "exceptions to the rule", some but not many.

That helps to make learning Finnish much easier.

[09seger]

Finnish is only hard to learn ... if you say it is ! Although a good humour is needed ..so you can laugh at yourself for saying wrong things ( but learning whilst doing so). Learning by laughing can only be good. The key point is to find a job though ..and I have first hand experience in knowing this! Once you have found a job in Finland and if it is permanent then you are laughing all the way! Have you thought of starting as a Home carer or something below your qualifications? Finns like their own education system ..and are often somewhat "less broad minded" when it comes to what Koulutus you have. I have a biomedical science degree and a masters teaching ...... but because it came from UK .. not Finland then its worth less than toilet paper bought from lidl!!!!
However , after 6 interviews with closed minded , only travelled to Turku from Helsinki Finns ... I actually came across a world travelled ,very clever , open minded ,Finnish man..and hence got a job in my field. Its obligatory I speak Finnish , and I only had an 8 week course (basic) myself. .... But , its what you make of it. If you want to learn ..then you will . I personally find looking at "Finnish peoples mistakes whilst speaking english .... helps me to become lateral with their thinking and speak the appropriate Finnish.
Prices are high here , and i would say it takes 2 years to see any benefit from living here. Its cold , the heating bills are enourmous... but skiing and ice skating are free
Good luck with the job find, be somewhat arrogant to make sure you get the job you deserve here xxx

[CH]

Quite contrary to English, Finnish grammar has relatively few "exceptions to the rule", some but not many.

That helps to make learning Finnish much easier.

Um... so... you have learned (at an age above being a small child) both English and Finnish to the same level? The "exceptions to the rule" being less in Finnish doesn't really help, when you are struggling with learning the actual rules.

I've seen people learn both Finnish and English from scratch. English is much easier to learn, hands down, doesn't even come close to learning Finnish. I'm not saying it is impossible, or even as hard as people make it out here sometimes... but many people do fail, even when they really try, and I wouldn't put the fault at them... it is hard.

Edit: What makes it so much harder is that in Finnish you need the rules to get the sentences to make any sense what so ever. In for instance English you mostly need to get the word order right and people will... again, mostly... understand you. Do the same in Finnish and you are talking gibberish. Compare the barely legible English texts that is often posted here... you do get the point. Hop over to the Kielikoulu, and the posts there are fairly advanced, but people are still going "Huh???" as making grammatical errors can change the meaning totally (or just makes it sound like gibberish), where as in English grammatical errors make the sentence "not correct".

[tuulen]

Edit: What makes it so much harder is that in Finnish you need the rules to get the sentences to make any sense what so ever. In for instance English you mostly need to get the word order right and people will... again, mostly... understand you. Do the same in Finnish and you are talking gibberish. Compare the barely legible English texts that is often posted here... you do get the point. Hop over to the Kielikoulu, and the posts there are fairly advanced, but people are still going "Huh???" as making grammatical errors can change the meaning totally (or just makes it sound like gibberish), where as in English grammatical errors make the sentence "not correct".

Oh, yes, Finnish has at least a million and one grammatical rules, and questions and statements can not be formed without knowing those rules. By comparison English grammar is rock-bottom simple, but I used the term grammar as a catch-all to include the many aspects of speaking English, my bad. However, in the overall scheme of things, Finnish is much more consistent, having far fewer exceptions to the rules. In an applied sense, that means most Finnish rules need to be learned only once while a list of exceptions to the rules is fairly brief, not much to get tangled-up in. Yet English ultimately includes a comparatively vast list of exceptions to the rules, where such entanglement could require years of thoughtful study to conquer. As opposites, English begins as easy but gets progressively more difficult, while Finnish begins as difficult but gets progressively easier.

[Logic]

helo ,
i have a wat to help you , if you would like to know contact to this email :aymanyamin@hotmail.com

سلام يا زعيمة.

ازا حابة معلومات اكثر عن فنلندا والطريقة لهون ممكن نحكي على الايميل

My friend translated that bit for me and it appears you just want to pick up any girl moving to Finland.