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Documents for europeans

Post by Papu » Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:21 am

Hi,

Could we somehow compile a list of necessary documents for Europeans moving to Finland?
Insurance forms, Police record, and all that bureaucratic crap that they throw in your way when you move...

* How can I insure myself till I get a job?
* Do I need to register with the police?
* What do I need to open a bank account?
* Do I need anything in order to be able to get a mobile phone contact?
* Anything else that doesn´t exist in the rest of Europe?

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks Papu


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Post by Hank W. » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:21 am

1. at home probably, depends on what kind of insurance
2. yes
3. 2 + register at the magistrate
4. 350 euros deposit or 20 for a prepaid
5. Depends on what you define as "rest of europe". all the E 101 111 -whgatever forms there exists.
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Post by sayx » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:34 am

You don’t have to pay a deposit for a phone, they will try to ask for it. As stated by DNA to me "you have to live in Finland for the past two years" my wife and i got our phones at the same time they hooked her up and then started with me next then they asked for the deposit saying the above quote, i just pointed out the fact that you just gave my wife a connection and she has not lived in Finland for the past two years. the DNA rep then said "but she's Finnish"

You can predict what I had to say about that, a manager at DNA office called me 5 minutes after my connection was activated and apologized
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Re: Documents for europeans

Post by PeterF » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:38 am

Papu wrote: * What do I need to open a bank account?
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Money and an address/residence in Finland...

You cant transfer money here untill you have a bank account and you cant open a bank account untill you have an address here.

So first you come do all the paper work (police etc)..get an address..take some cash to a bank..convince them you have a legal address here.
Open account..
Get the bank IBAN for your account..inform your bank back home to send money asap to this IBAN.
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Post by Hank W. » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:39 am

Deposit on phone is still a reality even for people lived 2 years *if they didn't register properly* ...one sparrow that made the spring just by catching the vendor pants down doesn't make it happen to everyone. You can try though...
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Post by sayx » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:46 am

Yes and the phone market is getting more and more cut throat so I have been told that you can see who will wave the deposit
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Post by PeterF » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:54 am

sayx wrote:Yes and the phone market is getting more and more cut throat so I have been told that you can see who will wave the deposit
I dont suppose your size/height had any influence on the vendor by any chance. :roll: ..and did you put him back down on the floor nice and gently afterwards. :wink:
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Post by Hank W. » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:59 am

I'd given 200 free text messages on top of the deal :lol:
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Post by Jason » Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:19 pm

You do not need an address in Finland to open a bank account. I opened an account before I moved here. I just gave them €500 on opening. I only got the money machine card. They would notgive ma visa/ mastercard untilI had an address and an income in Finland though which is fair enough I think.

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Thanks!

Post by Papu » Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:46 pm

Thanks for the replies!

I´ll head to the counsulate and get myself a checklist, but it doesn´t sound all that hard.

kiitos,

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Post by Sausagedog » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:32 pm

Hi!

There's a web site called Expat Finland (http://www.expat-finland.com) that answers lots of questions about moving here.

Re:
* Do I need to register with the police?
If you're staying longer than a year you have to, but it's a good idea anyway. See
http://expat-finland.com/moving_to_finl ... ation.html

* What do I need to open a bank account?
See http://expat-finland.com/finance/account.html

* Do I need anything in order to be able to get a mobile phone contact?
See
http://expat-finland.com/telecommunicat ... phone.html

Good luck! And once you're here and into the swing of things it's great!

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Post by Hank W. » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:38 pm

Yes, excellent advice, but the answer has nothing to say about "do I have to register with the Police".

Logic is: You need to have 1 thing here:
- henkilötunnus
to get henkilötunnus you have to do one thing:
- register at the maistraatti,
and for that you need 1 thing:
- oleskelulupa
To get oleskelulupa you need to do one thing:
- register at the police station...

The Police and Maistraatti databases are not connected in a way that the Maistraatti would know if there is issued a residence permit to a person or not. The knack is you first have to go get your henkilötunnus - because it just makes life easier, you can get your tax card and start working. However then you need to go to the police to get your residence permit, because the maistraatti (as said in the text) will not register you as a permanent resident in the city. Now once a person gets their Oleskelulupa -card they need to go to the Maistraatti and get the record straight. This is necessary on the long run for getting small things (like residential cheap buspass), KELA card or even kids into school...

Now depending on the level of coffee, SAD, MAD, bureaucratic vice, flowerhateedism and whatnot in the very bureaucratic person handling a certain paper at a certain time, things can go smoothily or then they can seem an obstacle course of catch-22's .
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