Is unemployment benefit considered as income by MIGRI/Police

[downvalley]

Hello,

Now, me and my wife has RP untill March 2015. (Type: A, issued for: 1 yr). We need to apply for the renewal before that time.

At this moment my salary is 1200 Euro/ month. My wife is getting labor market subsidy around 560 Euro/ month.

Now, my question is:

- Is labor market subsidy (unemployment benefit) considered as income for RP renewal?
- Anybody in similar situation before?

Kiitos paljon!

[Beep_Boop]

- Is labor market subsidy (unemployment benefit) considered as income for RP renewal?

I sure do hope that the answer is no.

Anyway, Migri.fi say this: "The granting of a residence permit requires that your livelihood in Finland is secured through means other than benefits paid by the state."

[betelgeuse]

- Is labor market subsidy (unemployment benefit) considered as income for RP renewal?

I sure do hope that the answer is no.

Anyway, Migri.fi say this: "The granting of a residence permit requires that your livelihood in Finland is secured through means other than benefits paid by the state."

That migri link is only applicable for the first permit. When renewing permits it's fine to temporarily rely on benefits. Aliens Act 39§ includes: "When issuing extended permits, the alien’s means of support shall be secure as provided in subsection 2, provided, however, that temporary resort to social assistance or other similar benefit securing the alien’s means of support does not prevent the issue of the permit."

http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/kaannokset ... 040301.pdf

[Beep_Boop]

That migri link is only applicable for the first permit. When renewing permits it's fine to temporarily rely on benefits.

Interesting. Any clue on how they assess whether this situation is temporary or not?

[betelgeuse]

That migri link is only applicable for the first permit. When renewing permits it's fine to temporarily rely on benefits.

Interesting. Any clue on how they assess whether this situation is temporary or not?

https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Halli ... 8+2003.pdf

Pykälän 3 momentissa säädettäisiin toimeentuloedellytyksestä jatkolupaa myönnettäessä. Toimeentuloedellytys arvioitaisiin käytettävissä olevien tulojen mukaan, jotka voivat osittain koostua myös sosiaaliturvaetuuksista. Tällaisia etuuksia voivat olla palkan sijaan maksettavat etuudet esimerkiksi tapaturmaetuudet, vanhempainetuudet ja sairauspäiväraha, tai kustannuksia korvaavia etuuksia esimerkiksi asumistuki ja lapsilisä. Toimeentulo ei kuitenkaan voi perustua toistuvasti myönnettävään toimeentulotukeen tai muuhun vähimmäistoimeentuloa turvaavaan etuuteen. Jatkolupaa harkittaessa tulee ottaa huomioon hakijan kokonaistilanne. Jatkoluvan epääminen saattaa olla kohtuutonta, jos tällaisiin etuuksiin turvautumisen ja omien ansioiden vähenemisen syynä on ollut sairaudesta, tapaturmasta tai esimerkiksi äitiydestä johtuva olosuhteiden muutos. Sama koskee tilannetta, missä hakija on joutunut tilapäisesti työttömäksi itsestään riippumattomista syistä jatkoluvan hakemisen aikaan.

[Beep_Boop]

https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Halli ... 8+2003.pdf

Still very vague. The "temporarily" unemployed might get a job the next day after the extension is granted or might not get a job in years.

[rinso]

If I look at the examples an "open end" unemployment doesn't seems to fit the intentions. But I agree it's open to interpretation and depending on the situation.

[betelgeuse]

https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Halli ... 8+2003.pdf

Still very vague. The "temporarily" unemployed might get a job the next day after the extension is granted or might not get a job in years.

I assume the case workers have more thorough guidelines at their disposal. However, I have not came across them with Google. If you are interested, could issue a request to STM (I assume they would be the ones to issue the guidance).

[justaguy]

Unless it's in clear writing in law that it's okay, then the most likely thing is that it's definitely not going to 'help' at getting the permit accepted.