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CHN
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Process after Migri Decision

Post by CHN » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:57 pm

Hello Everyone

Need to clarify few things if someone can advise please

What happens after Migri Decision?????

1. Migri makes decision.
2. They send RP Card or Decision first???
3. If they send decision, how long before RP card is received.
4. Can you re-enter after decision or RP card, as I am currently in Finland and have to leave for something critical.
5. Then take RP card to Maistratti, to change address, I heard it takes One month to change address, due to too much workload.
6. Where does Kela get in the picture, after Maistrati or after Migri.
7. If decision is sent before the RP card (if there is such a thing in the process), can a person enter with that, or needs the RP card?
8. After all the above, what needs to be done??

Thank you all for your advise



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betelgeuse
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Re: Process after Migri Decision

Post by betelgeuse » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:45 am

CHN wrote: 2. They send RP Card or Decision first???
The decision is available before the card (at least if you apply electronically).

http://www.migri.fi/finnish_citizenship ... e_decision
CHN wrote: 4. Can you re-enter after decision or RP card, as I am currently in Finland and have to leave for something critical.
The decision itself does not change anything. Your stay in Finland was legal before (assuming you weren't paperless) and after the decision. There are many threads on this topic already in the forum.
CHN wrote: 5. Then take RP card to Maistratti, to change address, I heard it takes One month to change address, due to too much workload.
This has nothing to do with the RP. You must change your address immediately regardless of the status of the RP process.


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Re: Process after Migri Decision

Post by CHN » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:48 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
CHN wrote: 2. They send RP Card or Decision first???
The decision is available before the card (at least if you apply electronically).
http://www.migri.fi/finnish_citizenship ... e_decision
CHN wrote: 4. Can you re-enter after decision or RP card, as I am currently in Finland and have to leave for something critical.
The decision itself does not change anything. Your stay in Finland was legal before (assuming you weren't paperless) and after the decision. There are many threads on this topic already in the forum.
CHN wrote: 5. Then take RP card to Maistratti, to change address, I heard it takes One month to change address, due to too much workload.
This has nothing to do with the RP. You must change your address immediately regardless of the status of the RP process.
Hi betelgeuse,
Thanks for link,
2. Card or Decision: I submitted paper application; "If you have submitted a paper application, the Finnish Immigration Service will send the decision to you by post."

4. ReEnter: I arrived on 2 year visa, which has expired since. In process it said person can stay until decision is made on expired Visa. If person leaves, can only reenter with Visa, and not guarantee that New Visa is issued.
My question is specific to RP; Can person enter with a Decision (I do not know how it looks :) ) or must have RP card. How long it takes to get physical hold of RP card to be able to show it at border points.

5. Change of Address: I checked net now, on http://www.maistraatti.fi/fi/Palvelut/Muuttoilmoitus/ it directs http://www.posti.fi/muuttoilmoitus/
which needs Registration / Log-in, with Bank Card or Smart / Chip ID.
Please advise, am I missing something. send me the links.

It is getting clearer, at least I know now that;
1. Decision comes First, pick up Decision from Post by showing ID.
2. How long before RP Card arrives, Unknown ??
3. Can person enter with Decision or RP Card is must ??
4. Once RP Card is received, apply On-line 'Change of Address' with RP Card or Bank Account which is opened with RP ID.
5. Can Bank Account be opened without RP Card ????

Once again thank you for taking your time, please feel free to clarify.


betelgeuse
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Re: Process after Migri Decision

Post by betelgeuse » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:05 pm

CHN wrote: 4. ReEnter: I arrived on 2 year visa, which has expired since. In process it said person can stay until decision is made on expired Visa. If person leaves, can only reenter with Visa, and not guarantee that New Visa is issued.
Visas are for short term visits. Are you confusing visas with residence permits? After understanding the difference, please clarify what exactly have you had and applied for?
CHN wrote: 5. Change of Address: I checked net now, on http://www.maistraatti.fi/fi/Palvelut/Muuttoilmoitus/ it directs http://www.posti.fi/muuttoilmoitus/
which needs Registration / Log-in, with Bank Card or Smart / Chip ID.
Please advise, am I missing something. send me the links.
You use the paper forms if you don't have working online identification.
CHN wrote: 4. Once RP Card is received, apply On-line 'Change of Address' with RP Card or Bank Account which is opened with RP ID.
5. Can Bank Account be opened without RP Card ????
So are you applying for the first permit? Does your information already exist in the population register? If it doesn't, you are not changing your address. Bank accounts can be opened with the RP and passport but you will need a Finnish id card to be able to use the account for online identification.


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Re: Process after Migri Decision

Post by CHN » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:51 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
CHN wrote: 4. ReEnter: I arrived on 2 year visa, which has expired since. In process it said person can stay until decision is made on expired Visa. If person leaves, can only reenter with Visa, and not guarantee that New Visa is issued.
Visas are for short term visits. Are you confusing visas with residence permits? After understanding the difference, please clarify what exactly have you had and applied for?
CHN wrote: 5. Change of Address: I checked net now, on http://www.maistraatti.fi/fi/Palvelut/Muuttoilmoitus/ it directs http://www.posti.fi/muuttoilmoitus/
which needs Registration / Log-in, with Bank Card or Smart / Chip ID.
Please advise, am I missing something. send me the links.
You use the paper forms if you don't have working online identification.
CHN wrote: 4. Once RP Card is received, apply On-line 'Change of Address' with RP Card or Bank Account which is opened with RP ID.
5. Can Bank Account be opened without RP Card ????
So are you applying for the first permit? Does your information already exist in the population register? If it doesn't, you are not changing your address. Bank accounts can be opened with the RP and passport but you will need a Finnish id card to be able to use the account for online identification.
Thank you betelgeuse for taking the time

Yes it is First time RP
I prefer to Apply what is easier and quicker for Maistraatti, what you suggest Online or paper and what I need

Thank you


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Re: Process after Migri Decision

Post by betelgeuse » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:51 pm

CHN wrote: Yes it is First time RP
I prefer to Apply what is easier and quicker for Maistraatti, what you suggest Online or paper and what I need
Then you must visit in person.


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