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Post by Paul_D » Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:16 pm

If you have guests visiting Helsinki, it is possible to have them having a good time, but it demands a good knowledge of the city and of your guests.

As a matter of fact, a lot of the "usual tourist stuff" are to be avoided. For example, the interiors of churches are boring (protestant temple => no big piece of art, no gold statue, no marble floor), the museums are often small and empty (Finland has not stolen pieces of art from other countries, and its artists didn't have mecenas in the old-times), the senate-square is boring, the souvenir-shops around esplanadi are very expensive, etc.

There are still some usual touristic-stuff that can be interesting (Suomenlinna, Seurasaari, Kiasma museum, National Museum, Uspenski...) but it's highly likely to disappoint your guests if it's not their taste. Also, the office of tourism offer a leaflet indicating interesting walks to do in Helsinki.

I think that you have to leave the tourist-paths to offer good time to your guests.

- If you think they want to unwind, as Pierrot said, Helsinki (and Finland) is great for that. So you say to your guest: hey, there is nothing really great to see here, but you can have a great relaxing time, without advertisements in the streets, without people shouting in the street, without aggressive car-drivers, without sellers trying to force you to buy something, without anyone bothering you when you sit in front of the sea, you can walk in any street and by the sea whenever you want without worry, you can have a walk in the parks by night without risk of being assaulted, etc.

- If you think your guests would appreciate arts or architecture, you can show the good buildings of Katajanokka, visit Seurasaari, visit Kiasma, the design-museum, etc. There are also first-class orchestras of classical-music here, for reasonable-price tickets.

- If your guests want to party, a good thing of Helsinki is that many good places are free to get-in, the choice is quite broad if you are familiar with it, and places are not far one of each other. It's perfect for going from one place to another during an evening, and that can't be boring, wether you visit StoryVille-Urki(after opera/symphonia gig)/Botta or Punavuori or Vaasankatu, etc. However, it's difficult not to make mistake there, such as going to Lost and Found before 10PM (empty !), heading to a Kallio-club at 1PM (soon closing), expecting Botta to rock'n'roll (it's a bit old-style place), expecting the finn-swedes at Kalle on a Thursday-evening to behave more civilized than Finnish, going anywhere in Kallio on the belief that there should be good bars everywhere (it isn't the case... some streets of Kallio are long and dead).

- If your guests want to enjoy eating, there are a few places worth visiting (Kuu, Saslik,..), and the indian-nepalese are good. Try http://www.eat.fi .

- If your guests want to go shopping, there are the expensive-shops around esplanadi and Aleksanterinkatu, the antic-shops a bit everywhere (Kallio, Kruununhaka, Punavuori...), the 2nd hands shop. Uff, and the others various 2nd hand-shops look like nothing from outside for strangers, but they can have jewels for very cheap, very good finnish souvenirs for unbeattable prices; and I saw once the singer of the Cardigans shopping for clothes at Uff :-) The Valtteri flea market in Kallio (on Saturday and Sunday mornings, especially) and the top-floor of the Hakaniemen market hall are also great.

- If your guests have a bit of youth or romance in them, you can suggest Linnanmäki (from 1st of May to end of September). In many countries, fun-fairs are awful places, crowded, noisy, worrying about pickpockets... But the one of Helsinki is just nice.

- If your guests want something to think, point them out the 1-million-things that are so special in Finland : the lack of advertisings in the streets, the silence in the streets or in the transportation, the lack of really tall buildings (the sun is often low, tall buildings would make too much shadow !), the position of the sun in the sky (at noon, it's more south than high, and at midnight in summer, it's low in the north), the apparent easyness of the traffic (no horns, no sudden breaks), the way people are together in the streets or in the public places (long silences often, it looks that the 2 people of a couple don't care sometimes of the other one in the couple), the way some extravagant in the street is totally ignored, the possibility to buy something in a shop without saying any word, the apparent "wildeness" of some areas in the city-center (no building by the beaches, big parks), the way that everything is in order (no one eats while walking in the street, no dog-!"#¤% in the streets, parks for dogs, no building that is in bad condition, lines for bikes), etc.

- and if nothing works for your guests, send them to Tallinn, to Stockholm or to a mökki !

/Paul
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Post by toukokuu » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:29 pm

One point is that Finland is not good for traditional sightseeing or "mediocre" tourism with busy visiting many places a day. It is good for things that are different compared to other cultures,as you Paul so well described. You have understood something what Finland is and what it is not.

And Finland is not same as Helsinki. Most of the best things are outside Helsinki, and what I would favour is the lake district.

About Helsinki,I think that the point is whether you visit Helsinki in the summer or in the winter. In summertime, there is so much to do and see in Helsinki. I think that the Suomenlinna fortress and Seurasaari open air museum are musts. You need to take a guided tour there in order to get the basic stories and histories. Also, many islands like Pihlajasaari and Uunisaari are good for picnic and swimming. Only some minutes from Helsinki.
And yes, Tarvaspää- as mentioned here- is worth of visiting and a real Finnish place, cultural heritage. Then there are the Rock church and the Dome (Tuomiokirkko). What does it matter if the Dome is simplistic, is it not good that there are different churches in the world?

In the summer, we have many music festivals in Helsinki and nearby areas. For shopping, we have Marimekko and many compact shopping centres. The prices are not cheap, but where in the northern Europe you have good prices, maybe in Tallinn...We have glass and design to offer, and unfortunately fur.

Then there are the Moskva Bar and Ice Bar, and some Sauna bars,and many saunas but for them is better to go outside Helsinki, to some friend' s cottage. In the winter, Yrjönkatu Pool is worth of a visit. Then there are many good restaurants serving Finnish specialities, like Lappi restaurants and Sea Horse.Dancing Finnish tango in Helsinki takes one night. They should have a place for that behind Vanha Ylioppilastalo (called?) and there are big dancing centres little outside Helsinki, like Pavi, where I have never been.

And then just watching the Finnish architecture,of which some, like works by Saarinen, are famous.

One friend of mine from Sweden told that she was so surprised that there was so much to see in Helsinki, I guess she spent something like one week here. But the point is also, like everywhere, that seeing places is not just walking through, but also learning some of the history and stories about the country.

If you are ready to go a little bit outside the city centre other than Tarvaspää in Espoo, the science centre Heureka in Tikkurila, Vantaa, is good for the whole family. The home of the compositor Jean Sibelius, called Ainola, in Järvenpää is only a train trip from Helsinki. There are some other cultural sights in Järvenpää as well. Also Hvitträsk has already been recommeded in this forum. And one day return cruise to Porvoo is fine if it is not raining too much
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Post by Jussi » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:34 pm

Lapland...plenty of touristy stuff up there....especially at this time of year!!



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Post by zeta » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:01 am

Finland has no big cities->don´t expect fancy churches, shopping avenues, amazing architecture, party life, etc.

What we do have is nature. And plenty of it.
Lakes
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Post by JasonS » Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:54 am

I took family visiting from London to Nuuksio national park in Espoo yesterday and we experienced some magical untouched winter scenery. We followed a marked trail to a sheltered campfire site next to a lake and enjoyed cooking makkara and drinking beer and glögi. We only saw two other people the whole time and the forest was wonderfully silent and Finnish.

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Post by ajdias » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:07 pm

May it be that some people have been here a bit too long... :) It could be added to the list "you've been too long in Finland... you start asking wtf are all these tourists doing here". Go away, there's nothing to see. A bit like natives ask the newly arrived "so what brought here? Do you like it here, really?". Also entertaining tourists and your guests, that came here for you, are two separated matters.

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Post by Papu » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:36 am

Hi spacedynamics,

You´re definately right - for "city"-tourism Finland has about 10 mins of activities to offer. The solution I found for visitors was warning them beforehand: They have to come well-prepared - there's no spontaneus sight-seeing to be done.
But if you do some research, than you can even find (very small) gems in Helsinki.

But if you have guests that have ever travelled, then the only thing to do is either:

* rent a Mökki in the countryside
* head straight to Tallin
Jabbadabbadooo

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Post by toukokuu » Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:59 am

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Post by EP » Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:26 pm

I always say to people that Finland is not about seeing, it is about being, doing and feeling.

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Post by jc444 » Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:41 pm

The girls toilet at Torni (bar in Helsinki) for sure. Seriously, its spectacular!

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Post by toukokuu » Sat Dec 31, 2005 5:37 pm

okay, after you done Helsinki in 10 minutes- even I think it takes one week in summertime, been to Tallin and have rested in a cottage in the middle of nowhere, you need life.

Consider the following festivals(there are so many that is no idea to write them all down):
The Savonlinna Opera Festival, held in July every year in an old castle in the middle of a lake, still in the middle of the town of Savonlinna.Next summer they will have operas Carmen and Magic Flute for example..www.operafestival.fi.

Whereas Savonlinna is in eastern Finland, in Seinäjoki, western Finland they will have the Tango Festival.You can dance tango non-stop in the streets of Seinäjoki. And because we do not have a royal family, we can developed the tradition of choosing a tango queen, king, princess and prince every year. There were more than 100.000 people visiting this festival last summer.www.tangomarkkinat.fi

Further north, in Oulu, they have an Air-guitar festival every year. Last summer the world championship went to Holland. These people think that if all people would play air-guitar, we would have peace in the world. Well, everyone at least can own an invisible guitar..it's cheap.
http://www.omvf.net/2005/ilmakitara.php

If you continue to Ruka, in Lapland, they play swamp football (suojalkapallo) as a part of Ruka festivals.

I have also heard about competitions or festivals, whatever, in sitting in ant hills. Did not, though, find the webpage, but found one Finnish man who told that this is his hobby.

There is also a competition (more than a festival) in Tyre Throwing every year, I guess it is in Pitkäjärvi, but I dont know where that place is. Serious challengers for Finland come from Sweden, Estonia and Russia. They have actually competitions all the year around, abroad and indoor in Finland. There was discussion in their webpage how tyre throwing can be so dangerous.... http://www.saappaanheitto.com

What is little more known worldwide, is the Wife Carrying World Championship in Sonkajärvi, eastern Finland. Asian wives have little problem because they are so tiny. You will have to weigh at least 49 kilos for this event. http://www.sonkajärvi.fi

Back to Savonlinna, other than opera, they also throw mobile phones in Savonlinna. It is also a world championship. http://www.savonlinnafestivals.com

And finally, we also have the Sauna Bathing World Championship, I guess in Heinola. Russians have threatened Finland every year. I just wonder if this is very interesting to watch, maybe it is more for the participants....

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Post by Mark I. » Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:05 pm

I just came from Lapland, lake Inari, and the nature and Kaamos lights this time of the year are simply stunning. It looks like a real magic land.

(Pity I didn't have a camera with me - but then againg, you would not believe those being genuine pictures with purpure-orange colours reflecting strangely from southern sky on daytime, bright snow and ligh-blue sky, white candle woods...)

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Post by VMB » Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:03 pm

I am surprised and shocked to read all the negative comments about Helsinki!!
The change that has taken place in my city of birth in the last ten to twenty years is quite amazing. It has transformed from a small grey 'provincial' town into a colourful cosmopolitan city on par with both Paris and London - and I have lived in both.

Having lived outside Finland for the last 30 years I now have a 'foothold' apartment in Helsinki where I return with family and different friends as often as I possibly can.
Never have we been short of things to do or see.
Our visits usually start with a stroll in the outdoor markets and kauppahalli, or some of the many parks and green areas followed by coffee in one of the many excellent cafes - Ekberg, Strindberg, Fazer etc

All our friends admire the architecture; old and new - from the neo-classical buildings through art deco to modern day creations like Kiasma. Not to forget the many still preserved old wooden buildings as in Kapyla and several locations downtown.
There are many more interesting and beautiful churches worth a look in than just the two or three most visited.

We never tire of exploring Helsinki's amazing coastline and archipelago.
A short walk round the bay is a favourite or a longer one in Suomenlinna or Seurasaari if time permits.

For those hungry for culture there are countless museums and art exhibitions as well as concerts, operas, theatre and of course a multitude of cinemas.

Most of our visitors - at least the ladies - also enjoy shopping in Helsinki. Being a relatively small city geographically, the number of shopping centres, department stores and individual shops is impressive.

At the end of an active day Helsinki offers a choice of great restaurants to suit all tastes and wallets - and yes, the ladies 'powder room' in Torni is also on our list of sights.

I do admit that as we enjoy the facility of travelling to both Tallinn and Stockholm we also offer them as a choice for those friends who stay with us a little longer - but absolutely not because there is 'nothing' to do in Helsinki!!

I am so looking forward to our next visit at the end of January when we shall be joined by yet another British couple - bound to fall in love with the beautiful 'Daughter of the Baltic'.

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Post by Naavaneito » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:30 am

Here is little travel plan that I have experieced a few summers ago.
First go to St. Petersburg by train for five days with your friend. Stay in some old, romantic Russian hotel with a wiew over the city. Buy a big map with suburban areas and take metro to somewhere every day. Go to parks, museums, little shops that sell surrealistic cakes (2 euros whole cake), buy a cake and eat it in a park. Watch people, watch bears swimming in fountains, buy some cheap russian champagne, a watermelon. Have a long talks with you friend. Que to Hermitage. In every evening, choose a restaurant from Lonely Planet (or some other quide) and walk there. You can found really delicious and cheap Russian, Indian, Korean, Mexican etc. food in the city.

Then come to Helsinki for next seven days and rest first because Helsinki is good place for resting. After resting go out. Walk to the market place, buy a lot of fresh strawberries and take a little boat to Pihlajasaari and lay there and eat strawberries. Swim from little island to island. Go to Elokuva-arkisto, watch some nice old film there. Choose your favourite museum and visit there (I like Kiasma and Design museum). Invite your friends for a night picnic in a park (Töölönlahti, Kaivopuisto). Walk a lot. Take a tram to Arabianranta in the evening and walk from Arabia, through Viikki to Herttoniemi and take metro back (you will see some forest). Take a bus to Nuuksio National Park and walk, pick blueberries and swim in the lakes. Take a museum train to old Porvoo, sit in some little cafes and go to Brunberg's candy factory and eat far too many sweets. Have BBQ party in Kaitalampi lake in Luukki and eat, drink and swim as much as you can. Experience sauna.

If it is winter go to saunas. Experience second floor saunas and pool in Yrjönkatu or more modern version in Mäkelänrinne. If there is a lot of snow, go to a long arctic night walk in Viikki forest. If it has been cold long enough, take this arctic walk on sea ice between islands. Go to ice-skating. Eat icecream outside when it is snowing. Sit in warm cafes when you start freezing. Visit in old market halls.
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Post by smilesalot » Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:44 am

Great Ideas Naavaneito I think those are great right now I just because I have a Helsinki region pass I hop on a train, tram or bus and follow it to the end, I get off if its interesting or note places Ill get off on the way back, I stop in the outdoor Tori’s (Market place) and check out what the people are selling out doors. Saunas are terrific, every one is different besides the Swimming halls. There are a couple of Huge outdoor Ice skating rinks.
Amiel if your sister gets really bored, introduce her to Finland forum if you haven't, The Botanical gardens is fasinating. If She's interested in meeting a fellow American tourist (Me I haven't settled in yet I don't know where I will be accepted for Suomen Kieli kurssit) I'd be more than happy to meet her at any of the interesting places here in Helsinki and show here some of the things Iv'e enjoyed. Of course I’m going up to Jive-a-sky-la (Jyväskylä) on the 7th to check that city out, and then back to Tampere for a couple of day's before I come back to Vanta to register for classes.



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