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Distribution of dividends

Post by Marsh04 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:13 pm

Is there any check and balance system for the distibution of dividends? Any system other than the company's own mechanisms? Something like taxation authorities etc?

Or if the taxes are paid properly it doesn't matter where the money has ended up?

E.g a dishonest person who controls a small scale company, pays corporate tax and also income tax on behalf of another shareholder but doesn't pay the other shareholder the proper amount he should be paid taking advantage of his naivety or lack of knowldge. Is there any chance s/he will be caught?



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Re: Distribution of dividends

Post by Pursuivant » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:31 pm

Well it all should be in the audit books?
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Post by tjawatts » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:10 pm

Smaller companies do not all need to be audited.

But shareholders are entitled to see the accounts and if they say they have paid a dividend and you havent received it then you complain and if they dont pay it then you take them to collection agency or court.

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Re: Distribution of dividends

Post by tjawatts » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:26 pm

Note if they say they have paid a dividend to you to the tax authorities it will be on your tax return. (the tax people wont check did you actually get it)

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Re: Distribution of dividends

Post by betelgeuse » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:28 pm

tjawatts wrote: But shareholders are entitled to see the accounts and if they say they have paid a dividend and you havent received it then you complain and if they dont pay it then you take them to collection agency or court.
Shareholders are not entitled to see the accounts. The relevant powers are the right to ask questions in the general meetings and the possibility of a special audit.

http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/kaannokset ... 060624.pdf
Marsh04 wrote:Is there any check and balance system for the distibution of dividends? Any system other than the company's own mechanisms? Something like taxation authorities etc?
Courts.
Marsh04 wrote: Or if the taxes are paid properly it doesn't matter where the money has ended up?

E.g a dishonest person who controls a small scale company, pays corporate tax and also income tax on behalf of another shareholder but doesn't pay the other shareholder the proper amount he should be paid taking advantage of his naivety or lack of knowldge. Is there any chance s/he will be caught?
If the other shareholder does not report it, then only a tax audit comes to mind (I assume the the company does not need to be regularly audited).

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Re: Distribution of dividends

Post by Pursuivant » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:02 am

Well, you need to submit your... 'end-of-year-books' to the kaupparekisteri, and have them 'end-of-year-books' for the taxman?
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Re: Distribution of dividends

Post by tjawatts » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:17 pm

Well maybe I used the wrong word. The shareholders for sure are entitled to see the "Financial Statements" as they have to approve the at the AGM. And dividends are for sure shown on the financial statements and also dividends have to be approved in a shareholders meeting. And all shareholders should be invited to and be provided minutes of any shareholder meetings.

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Re: Distribution of dividends

Post by betelgeuse » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:10 pm

tjawatts wrote:Well maybe I used the wrong word. The shareholders for sure are entitled to see the "Financial Statements" as they have to approve the at the AGM.
Yes they are but so is everyone else since the financial statements are public documents.
tjawatts wrote: And dividends are for sure shown on the financial statements and also dividends have to be approved in a shareholders meeting. And all shareholders should be invited to and be provided minutes of any shareholder meetings.
Correct.


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