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Mizu1993
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Doctors?

Post by Mizu1993 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:19 pm

From my home country, I am used that I can see a doctor whenever I want (except weekends) and get help immediately. But here it is much more harder. I don't know what to do. I have a back problem since 2 month, after I gave birth. I also have to say that not even the doctors in the hospital could speak english. I was 1 week there, without a translator....impossible. I visited a few doctors here already, because of different reasons. No matter what the problem is, they can't solve it. I always hear "I don't know" or "We can't do anything" from doctors. How can that be? So what should I do? My back gets worse with every day, I go to massages every 2 weeks, that is the only thing that I found so far what I can do. I can't be too much absend from my family either. My fiancee is working and I have a 3 month old baby to take care of. I live in Tampere, for a big city, it should be possible to have doctors around, right?



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Keravalainen
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Re: Doctors?

Post by Keravalainen » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:02 pm

Hi!
You can get an appointment to a doctor here at private healthcare immediately tomorrow...
over 100 vacant appointments at Terveystealo, Mehiläinen etc!
But... don't expect to get them cheap - be prepared to pay!
- - But isn't your personal health worth it, since you are in a hurry and complaining?

If you want to get a doctor's appointment at public heathcare (cheaper!), be prepared to wait some time.
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Post by biryvih » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:49 pm

From my home country, I am used that I can see a doctor whenever I want (except weekends) and get help immediately.
Sorry to hear about your situation, but you can always try private, I think you will get it right away, but it is gonna cost a bit. In public sectors it takes time to get the appointment, but you can try going to hospital and explain your situation to the nurse and make a personal request it can work, sometimes when they see the severity of the problem, they often try to squeeze some time for you.
that not even the doctors in the hospital could speak english. I was 1 week there, without a translator....impossible.
When you are making the appointment, request them to provide you the doctor with the English language skills.

I would love to give you the benefit of doubt, but my experience says otherwise. I have lived in a "village" population 2000 people and somewhat conservative, but my doctor was fluent in English. I have lived in a town with 12000 people and my doctor was perfect in English. I have visited physiotherapist (back problem) in a town with 5000 population, and guess what, the doctor was kind and spoke perfect English. I am living in a town with roughly 15000 people and so far I have visited doctors multiple times, and doctors speak pretty good English, I made a complaint about a doctor once and requested to replace with someone else and they did that for me. So it is little hard to believe that in Tampere doctors aren't speaking English. I can be wrong of course, but I told you my experience in much much smaller places.


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Re: Doctors?

Post by burak25 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:11 am

I was once hospitalized in my life and it was in TAYS. They all speak great English (up to medical terms that I might not understand with my native language anyways) and offered me translator in my own language if requested. I also been to clinics etc many times and always had decent English speakers. I am not sure about the quality but language is definitely not a barrier.


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Re: Doctors?

Post by metsämurmeli » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:56 am

I doubt anyone anywhere on this earth can study medicine without knowing a fair amount of English. What I have heard from others, though, is that some expect you to speak one of the 2 national languages when you use the public health care. You may just have been unlucky, or did not present the problem well. English is NOT a national language. So if you expect them to talk English with you, I suggest to ask nicely. I personally had to explain to Docs that I am totally learning Finnish, for them to relax. Never met one that would continue with Finnish, once I explained.

IMO, Finland is a mixture of very high quality medicine, and a fair amount of fatalism plus saving money wherever possible. I have met a lot of "oh you have pain? tough love" even from private health care docs. They just cost more, the service is not necessarily beyond the "take an aspirin" approach of the public sector.

Could you go to neuvola, asking nicely for English, and either have them counsel you, or ask around for a good Doc or physiotherapist? Massage every 2 weeks for an acute back pain after birth seems not remotely enough.


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Re: Doctors?

Post by Piet » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:49 pm

metsämurmeli wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:56 am
I doubt anyone anywhere on this earth can study medicine without knowing a fair amount of English. What I have heard from others, though, is that some expect you to speak one of the 2 national languages when you use the public health care. You may just have been unlucky, or did not present the problem well. English is NOT a national language. So if you expect them to talk English with you, I suggest to ask nicely. I personally had to explain to Docs that I am totally learning Finnish, for them to relax. Never met one that would continue with Finnish, once I explained.

IMO, Finland is a mixture of very high quality medicine, and a fair amount of fatalism plus saving money wherever possible. I have met a lot of "oh you have pain? tough love" even from private health care docs. They just cost more, the service is not necessarily beyond the "take an aspirin" approach of the public sector.

Could you go to neuvola, asking nicely for English, and either have them counsel you, or ask around for a good Doc or physiotherapist? Massage every 2 weeks for an acute back pain after birth seems not remotely enough.
Back pain after giving birth is not so uncommon, and it needs time to get better, it will take sometimes more than a year, depends on the place of the pain and the reason for it.
In general you cannot do anything else than prescribe painkillers for this, however you do not want painkillers if you are breastfeeding (advised). Those chemicals end up in the mother milk and are by definition not healthy for the newborn.

Shortly: learn to live with the pain for now, try resting as much as possible (take naps same time as the newborn) and when you sleep, put a soft pillow between your upper legs when you lay on your side.
Your mattress is very important and should be adjusted to you weight (an adjustable bottom under the mattress could help, see ikea).

Basically an MRI, CT or Röntgen picture of your spine should show any problem with the disks in your back if the problem is there, but this is rarely the case. symptoms would be more like unexplained pain in other parts of your body than you back itself due to nerves being squeezed.

One thing that will for sure help you: start doing stomach exercises to strengthen your belly muscles (sit ups etc), these muscles are severely impacted by your pregnancy and are very very important in helping your back to stay straight (and therefore prevent pain to develop). you need to get these into shape again as quickly as possible to relieve the pressure on the disks in your back.

A massage will only help your back muscles to relax, this will not prevent the pain from coming back.

Good luck!
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