Americans finding work in Finland

[longgo]

Good luck man.. I speak 2 eastern languages + english , understand a little finnish which for 1 year is more that success(for me ) i'm specialist in CNC programing support and wor, also can work like painter, carpenter , photographer , cleaner , IT somputer software and hardware support , develop and build TCP/IP networks, web designer , mechanic of machines or cars , builder .. but still ... for 6 months nothing happend.. the usual answer is - You need to know Finnish well .. and before the crises i was working as CNC machinist in one company that only one was English speaking ... without any trouble. My suggestion is - if you find someone finnish guy to recomend you (especially from employment office) you'll have chance in other case.. just wish you luck . I learned in a hardway - if i ask in offices like workbox , my documents newer comes to the companies that searching for workers.. You have 2 choices - to go personally to ask in any company or .. to find some fin to recomend you.. otherwise ..

[Pursuivant]

I'll put it this way. We're hiring J2EE platform specialists. Experience is open source and/or commercial platforms ranging from Tomcat to WebSphere and all possible and few impossible in between. Nice - but why would we hire some no-speak at full price when we can hire a team of 10 in Pune or Minsk? To get hired here you need to be able to be in contact with the Finnish customers. So unless you can read the job ad theres a threshold to apply, even you designed that piece of crap SUN portal I'm getting the hives with.

[longgo]

So unless you can read the job ad theres a threshold to apply, even you designed that piece of crap SUN portal I'm getting the hives with.

Did I need to think that was stone in my garden? I'm not related with SUN at all and for all other .. let's say a little disagree. Here is also some rules that if you have luck and someone fin with name to represent you.. you can have a job.
I was with this luck before.. now all is .. !"#¤% but .. wth some light to the end..

[Pursuivant]

I wasn't sepeaking of you you, but some you... of course that "knowing someone" helps, but if we're talking of global outsourcing then it really gets bizzarre sometimes.

[longgo]

If we speak for the whole situation - i also can say that if he trust only about the fact that is from US(hope i remember right), and speak english.. let say no so good chances.. And well make a joke with me .. but in matter of fact is not so important the sourcing.. more important is SEO(Searching engine optimisation ) or with two words for him :

- good friends(to support and help him)
- luck(alot of it)

Everything is possible,just need to find a proper person and .. to have luck

[AldenG]

I don't believe that nobody should try this kind of thing at this kind of time.

I just believe they should come armed with the knowledge that for most, this will be the hardest thing they've ever done and they need to be prepared to outcompete lots of other people who are equally or better qualified. As Jason pointed out, there's always (I guess) something for the one exceptional person who works harder and smarter than all the other people competing for that job.

The numerical reality is unavoidable. When there are more applicants than jobs, someone will get each job while the large majority will not. It will owe to a combination of optimism, perseverance, positivity, networking, and luck. Many of the ones who don't get the job will also have had those traits, as tummansininen also pointed out.

[Upphew]

The numerical reality is unavoidable. When there are more applicants than jobs, someone will get each job while the large majority will not. It will owe to a combination of optimism, perseverance, positivity, networking, and luck. Many of the ones who don't get the job will also have had those traits, as tummansininen also pointed out.

Case in point: Ikea, Tampere, ca. 280 people needed, over 8000 applicants, source: http://www.aamulehti.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/166535.shtml

[longgo]

There is no way to be 100% sure that even of he speak finnish he will find a workplace. Also based on my small experience here in small towns in middle of Finland the employers don't wish even to try to take a documents from someone who is from abroad.
Again the 90% for him, the questioner is - luck , big sity, and recomendation from fin who is owner of company, or with name in society.. Then. you have chance, or to find a work that no one fin will wish to take. But again he will be the last choice in the documents chain. Short example - I was with recomendation from 2 places that i was work in finland, also from one school where i made like volunteer computer network of 16 machines, reinstall and prepare them to work, design a wooden doors for the new fance, draw the pictures and .. build them.. - from that shool also have nice recomendation and i was sending documents for... night delivery of newspaper. There i know 2 people who speak english and if i can't understand something(which is totally mistery what will be) i can ask.. but the answer was - you're not approved for that position!?
Everyone can have a chance..but let be realistic

[Tiwaz]

There is no way to be 100% sure that even of he speak finnish he will find a workplace. Also based on my small experience here in small towns in middle of Finland the employers don't wish even to try to take a documents from someone who is from abroad.

In such cases it might be that person was foolish enough not to get his/her documents recognized into their Finnish equivalents.
You might know that University of Nowhere from Hicksville Montana is actually one of the premier learning faculties of US midwest or whatever, but for Finn University of Nowhere and University of Arsescratch, which proficiently advertises that they shall send you your diploma for low price of 50$ in their emails, are basically one and same.

Added to this, we have no idea what exactly is included in your studies in your school and we have little reason to take those papers since you could have written them yourself as far as Finns know.

Thus, need to have your papers recognized.

[jas_rho]

There is no way to be 100% sure that even of he speak finnish he will find a workplace. Also based on my small experience here in small towns in middle of Finland the employers don't wish even to try to take a documents from someone who is from abroad.

In such cases it might be that person was foolish enough not to get his/her documents recognized into their Finnish equivalents.
You might know that University of Nowhere from Hicksville Montana is actually one of the premier learning faculties of US midwest or whatever, but for Finn University of Nowhere and University of Arsescratch, which proficiently advertises that they shall send you your diploma for low price of 50$ in their emails, are basically one and same.

Added to this, we have no idea what exactly is included in your studies in your school and we have little reason to take those papers since you could have written them yourself as far as Finns know.

Thus, need to have your papers recognized.

Hey, there is nothing wrong with Montana, I'm from Montana