I'm interested in learning suomi

Piedra · Post by **Piedra** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:29 am

I´m really fluent in french and spanish, my english is not perfect but I'm able to communicate in it. I know finnish is language with 15 cases and that nouns adjectives and pronouns are declined. Anyway, if anyone is interested in practicing another language and at the same time teach me some basic finnish grammar; please tell in what chat room we could practice.

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kalmisto · Post by **kalmisto** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:57 pm

Check out the Finnish Language Forum and your life will never be the same ! :

http://forums.delphiforums.com/suomikieli

blamextaylor · Post by **blamextaylor** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:39 am

Awwe, that link didn't work for me.

I've been searching around the internet, looking to learn Finnish, also...since I've decided to 'embrace my Finnish culture'. Heh.

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:45 am

suomi is the country
suomeksi is the language....

try http://www.finnishschool.com as a starting point...

Bret

PeterF · Post by **PeterF** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:56 am

bretti_kivi wrote: suomeksi is the language....

Sorry Bret ..have to make a small correction..Suomea is the language Suomeksi..means "Into Finnish" using the Translative Case.."become Finnish/change into Finnish" as in translating.

http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/finnish8.html

miti · Post by **miti** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:31 am

PeterF wrote:
bretti_kivi wrote: suomeksi is the language....

Sorry Bret ..have to make a small correction..Suomea is the language Suomeksi..means "Into Finnish" using the Translative Case.."become Finnish/change into Finnish" as in translating.

http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/finnish8.html

Sorry Peter, have to make another small correction

. The name of the language is suomi (with small s), suomea is when you use partitiivi (which is very often the case - e.g. minä puhun suomea).

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:22 am

Yes. if you say "Suomea" that means the Finnish Nation.

Engelsmannit haukkuivat suomea vaikeaksi. [Englishmen complained (lit. barked) (the) Finnish (language) being difficult]

Engelsmannit haukkuivat Suomea vaikeaksi. [Englishmen complained (lit. barked) Finland being (a) difficult (place)]

acwan · Post by **acwan** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:40 am

If this thread isn't living proof of how hard it is to learn Finnish, I don't know what is!

kwallette · Post by **kwallette** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:44 am

At least when you speak you don't have to differentiate between "S" and "s".

PeterF · Post by **PeterF** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:49 am

I am still trying to construct a sentence that uses suomi..meaning the language in the nominative form...other than as if quoting a dictionary term..cant do it..

so as far as I am concerned finnish as a language trying to learn = suomea..translating into finnish = suomeksi...
one cant talk suomi only suomea...

miti · Post by **miti** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:56 am

Mikä kieli se on?
- suomi.

You can't answer that with suomea.

khu · Post by **khu** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:14 pm

Hank W. wrote:Yes. if you say "Suomea" that means the Finnish Nation.

It's wierd to me that in that sentence 'Finland' would need to be partitiivi -- because here we're speaking of ALL of Finland, not a part of it. And there is no other Finland but Suomi, so why partitiivi?

Guess it may just be one of those things that just don't make no durned sense.

PeterF · Post by **PeterF** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:22 pm

khu wrote:
Hank W. wrote:Yes. if you say "Suomea" that means the Finnish Nation.
It's wierd to me that in that sentence 'Finland' would need to be partitiivi -- because here we're speaking of ALL of Finland, not a part of it. And there is no other Finland but Suomi, so why partitiivi?

Guess it may just be one of those things that just don't make no durned sense.

Because several verbs especially when expressing feeling demand the partative case.."to complain" being one and "to love" being another.

Also when ever a negative is used the partative is aso required.

Here are the rules:
http://www.uta.fi/~km56049/finnish/partreas.html

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:23 pm

please don't apologise for correcting my grammar..

Bret

kalmisto · Post by **kalmisto** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 1:27 pm

>> I am still trying to construct a sentence that uses suomi..meaning the language in the nominative form...other than as if quoting a dictionary term..cant do it..

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You could say "Suomi on vaikea kieli" ( Finnish is a difficult language ) or ask the question "Onko suomi vaikea kieli? ( Is Finnish a difficult language? ).

Äidinkieleni on suomi = My mother tongue is Finnish.

Ruotsi on helpompi kieli oppia kuin suomi = Swedish is an easier language to learn than Finnish.

Hänen ongelmansa on huono suomi = His/her problem is bad Finnish.

Jos suomi on liian vaikeaa, valitse ruotsi! = If Finnish is too difficult , choose Swedish!

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