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monikko tips??

Post by Phil » Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:08 pm

We've been doing monikko (plural) in my Finnish 3 class. It's not really that hard, but there are a lot of a little rules. Does anyone have any good tips or "cheat sheets" that can help??



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Post by Frypan » Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:41 pm

If rote memorisation rings your bell, I made a list of 100 words with the basic, kaikki, monta and paljon forms here...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Finnish/files/
then select
MonikkoPartitiivi.xls

A good exercise might be to put that list into the different groups based how the words are conjugated... and then share that for the next person :) or put it in Finnish School... :lol: That list is public domain.

Maybe if you look at them in a list, you can start to see patterns, and ... I don't know. It took me a long time and a combination of memorisation and the mathematical approach.

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Post by kalmisto » Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:25 am

Conjugate Finnish nominals on-line at :

http://213.28.175.242:8080/SparroWWeb/guessword.jsp

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Re: monikko tips??

Post by kalmisto » Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:22 pm

Phil wrote:We've been doing monikko (plural) in my Finnish 3 class. It's not really that hard, but there are a lot of a little rules. Does anyone have any good tips or "cheat sheets" that can help??
Have you noticed that some Finnish words only have the plural form:

hautajaiset = a funeral, ( the ) funerals

nämä hautajaiset = this funeral = these funerals

häät = a wedding, weddings

naamiaiset = a masquerade, masquerades

sakset = scissors

Can anybody remember more of these?

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Post by Hank W. » Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:26 pm

Any kind of party is almost always a plural
juhlat, ristiäiset...
except joulu & juhannus & pääsiäinen
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Re: monikko tips??

Post by PeterF » Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:38 pm

kalmisto wrote:[Have you noticed that some Finnish words only have the plural form:


Can anybody remember more of these?
But dont forget that the partative rules still apply to these words..
e.g. The negative forces the partative..
pikkuhousut = panties
but it is... Ilman Pikkuhousuja... :oops:

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Post by Hank W. » Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:55 pm

Why be so verbal when you can say it with one word... pikkuhousuitta :wink:
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