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tuulen
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definition of word question

Post by tuulen » Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:34 am

In Lapland the word kaira translates into English as meaning wilderness, as of out in the middle of nowhere.

But could kairi also translate as meaning wilderness? I can not find sanakirjassa definition of kairi but maybe kairi is a regional variation of kaira spelling?



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Re: definition of word question

Post by Jukka Aho » Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:14 pm

tuulen wrote:In Lapland the word kaira translates into English as meaning wilderness, as of out in the middle of nowhere.

But could kairi also translate as meaning wilderness? I can not find sanakirjassa definition of kairi but maybe kairi is a regional variation of kaira spelling?
For what it’s worth, I never knew the word kaira has that meaning as well, but according to Google you’re correct. As you suggest, it is probably a somewhat regional word when used that way.

In my usage, kaira has only ever been the name for this tool:

http://samfishing.fi/kauppa/index.php?cPath=67_154_163

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mibx_Co03Fw&t=4s

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I have never heard the word kairi.
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Re: definition of word question

Post by tuulen » Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:56 am

Kiitos, Jukka!

My dictionary is a 1984 WSOY edition of Uusi Suomi-Englanti Suur-Sanakirja of 1.446 pages and I also have its mate edition going from English to Finnish. It is a good dictionary although initially it did take some while for me to figure out how to use it and how to get the most out of it.


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Re: definition of word question

Post by tuttu » Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:01 pm

my oldish wsoy suursanakirja has kaira in it, with both definitions (yours and jukka aho's), but not kairi.

i think i heard the word kaira in some värttinä song...


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Re: definition of word question

Post by tuulen » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:37 am

Yes, I can recall the Värttinä song that you mentioned, from many years ago, and I believe the kaira reference in that song was to wilderness.

There is a river in southeastern Lappi by the name of Kairijoki and the headwaters, at the highest elevation of that river, begin in genuine wilderness and so I was wondering whether kairi could be an ancient or a regional spelling, murre, of kaira. That seems possible.


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Re: definition of word question

Post by onkko » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:14 pm

Kairi is womans name. Kaira is "untouched" wilderness.
Thats what came first on my mind, i checked and there is under 179 kairi as woman and few as man. Kaira is something i dont have a doubt.

I have no idea if kairi and kaira have anything to do with each other.
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