AldenG wrote:To me you seem overconfident that what you write here will not come back to haunt you.
Even in Finland, once you sign something in a place like that, it can be awfully hard to say later that you didn't know what you were signing. Paper has more weight than oral statements and their word has more weight than yours. If they say they gave you a translation, the court will believe them, not you. Even if they lie. And they know that perfectly well.
Maybe it wasn't a confession you signed, but I would assume that to some extent it was.
lateef wrote:This society is built on honesty and trust. I might be a crook who did a wrong act but this is not Iran or Saudi Arabia where they chop off your hand if you steal.
I hope someone can recommend a place where you can get some sound legal advice
lateef wrote:I did steal but when I saw them coming after me, put it back.
Tiedotus 11.12.2006 11:10
Poliisin hallinnoimissa rekistereissä merkintä ko. asiasta ja siitä seuranneesta sakosta näkyy poliisiasiaintietojärjestelmässä viisi vuotta sakon tuomitsemisesta lähtien. Rikosrekisteriin merkintää ei sakkotuomiosta tule.
Poliisiasiaintietojärjestelmään ei ole pääsyä poliisin ulkopuolisilla tahoilla. Tiettyihin turvallisuuden kannalta merkittäviin työtehtäviin työnantajalla on mahdollisuus tilata poliisilta ns. turvallisuusselvitys työnhakijan suostumuksella. Tällöin tietojärjestelmässä oleva sakko saattaa tulla esille. Yleisesti ottaen yhdellä näpistyssakolla ei juurikaan ole merkitystä nuoren tulevaisuuden kannalta.
Ilkka Laasanen, rikosylikomisario
Then again if you were not officially arrested but only questioned, your rights might be less than you assume.
lateef wrote:In the police station, they spoke Finnish. I asked for an interpreter. I asked for a lawyer and I asked to speak to the Embassy of my country. The police did not provide any. Are the arrested or detained people have any basic legal rights?
No caution was given at the time of arrest.
The police made me sign a document in Finnish, again I asked for translator which was denied. They fined me €60.
1. What are the chances that the retail market had the Video footage and if so, do I have a legal right to view it before pleading?
2. Am I going to be tried in a court of law?
3.Was I charged for a criminal offence or was it just a fine?
4.Do I have under the Finnish criminal law such as being cautioned at the time of arrest, right to have an interpreter, right to have a lawyer and the right to speak to my Embassy for consular support?
5. Is this going to stay on my record and will I have any trouble in visa renewal?
6. Is this going to stay on my record as a criminal offence. I am planning to move to USA and they will require a police certificate with no criminal record.
7. If I was denied of certain rights, where can I complain? Where can I challenge this fine?
Cory wrote:lateef wrote:I did steal but when I saw them coming after me, put it back.
Morally, I suppose, if you were stealing to provide food or medicine for a loved one who was at risk of starving and/or dying... I would have some sympathy for you.
If this was not the case... Prices are high enough in this country and for those of us working and providing for a family, it's hard enough to keep the budget in check without prices being raised to compensate for loss due to shop-lifting.
Logic wrote: he has no access to social assistance and I'm speculating that he might've provided a not so accurate proof of funds at the time of his permit.
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