Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by 007 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:08 pm

007 wrote:I have a feeling that I am dealing with a huuto.net huijari here. He disconnects my calls and in fact haven't heard of him since I paid him. I will do the rikosilmoitus after 4:00 pm tommorrow.

I have his phone number, nordea bank account, and IP address(from his email). I want to publish them all over internet so that others won't fall for him. Is it legal to do that?

P.S. He has closed his huuto.net account!
Update: after rikosilmoitus, it took over half year that the police took some action. turned out that the fraudster has a long history of crimes. In a letter sent to me, a court decision that is, the guy is implicated in 6 crimes... including a case of burglary of neighbor next door :lol:

ulosottovirasto sent me a letter just a month ago stating that the guy is a perseauki.. so there went my faint hope of getting my money back.

add: oh.. i tried to publish the dude's name (first name i did in fact publish with bank account) including details, don't know whether it's legal but a guy (user) at huuto.net forum seemed to look at these things bit differently. In his words, it's a modern day version of public stoning..... :lol: all i wanted was to deter the guy from cheating others.
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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by Upphew » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:52 pm

007 wrote:
007 wrote:I have a feeling that I am dealing with a huuto.net huijari here. He disconnects my calls and in fact haven't heard of him since I paid him. I will do the rikosilmoitus after 4:00 pm tommorrow.

I have his phone number, nordea bank account, and IP address(from his email). I want to publish them all over internet so that others won't fall for him. Is it legal to do that?

P.S. He has closed his huuto.net account!
Update: after rikosilmoitus, it took over half year that the police took some action. turned out that the fraudster has a long history of crimes. In a letter sent to me, a court decision that is, the guy is implicated in 6 crimes... including a case of burglary of neighbor next door :lol:

ulosottovirasto sent me a letter just a month ago stating that the guy is a perseauki.. so there went my faint hope of getting my money back.

add: oh.. i tried to publish the dude's name (first name i did in fact publish with bank account) including details, don't know whether it's legal but a guy (user) at huuto.net forum seemed to look at these things bit differently. In his words, it's a modern day version of public stoning..... :lol: all i wanted was to deter the guy from cheating others.
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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by Pursuivant » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:26 pm

Yeah, so there was a reason I was quite sceptical. The court system and "libel" legislation in Finland favors the petty crooks an not the "honest people" .

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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by mrjimsfc » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:48 pm

Time for a personal visit? Tell him if you have to visit again it will be very unpleasant for him. Say something about the price of kidneys these days. Of course it helps if you have a very large person with a heavy Russian accent there with you. :roll: :ochesey:
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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by sparklegemini » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:01 pm

i bought an item on tori.fi last week, and does anyone meet the same situation like me, the name of seller was aleksi... and i transfered he money to tia Qvick nordea account, he said this name is his wife name.
10days and i didnt receive anything, asking the posti, they said no thing delivered to me.
yes, i know it's fraud case and i contact him a lot time but no response at all. he still uses the phone number, (prepaid) and now what should i need to do?
i will go to the police to have fraud report before going to nordea bank for requesting chrageback my money ?
i have email of the frauder, his bank account and sms, whatsapp converstation with him.
is it possible for a chargeback case?

just to remind everyone that dont transfer any money to bank acc Tia qvick fi88....
thanks all


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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by Upphew » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:06 pm

sparklegemini wrote:i bought an item on tori.fi last week, and does anyone meet the same situation like me, the name of seller was aleksi... and i transfered he money to tia Qvick nordea account, he said this name is his wife name.
10days and i didnt receive anything, asking the posti, they said no thing delivered to me.
yes, i know it's fraud case and i contact him a lot time but no response at all. he still uses the phone number, (prepaid) and now what should i need to do?
i will go to the police to have fraud report before going to nordea bank for requesting chrageback my money ?
i have email of the frauder, his bank account and sms, whatsapp converstation with him.
is it possible for a chargeback case?

just to remind everyone that dont transfer any money to bank acc Tia qvick fi88....
thanks all
Banks can't do that.
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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by sparklegemini » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:35 pm

hix, so now i have to wait ?
my friend have the same situation and it took more than 1 year for the police to investigate, why so long in finland.
and now he still doesnt receive anything from the fraudster.
i contacted the nordea bank, they promise to give me the fraudster's contact information by extracting the bank account.
what should i do next, i am really need the money now.
i try to call the fraudster many times, even in night, he replied with impolite response and dare me to report it to the police.????
anyone has experience, please help me.
so sad about finland crime punishment system


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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by Flossy1978 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:41 am

Ha.... Finland is 1950's.

You do realise in the south of America in the 1950's they were dragging black dudes around by rope tide to their stupid trucks?

Am yet to see that here....

Too bad some rotten apples spoil it for all.....

These days it often seems that black people are more racist than white, in general. This racist sh*t is beginning to get a bit boring.... Go look at what is happening in South Africa right now and then come back and tell me how racist white people all are.... When your own kind are killing white Afrikaans (sp?) for farm land which was producing food for the nation and are now just being left derelict. Because of stupid racism.

Jesus, we're all the same, no matter the colour of our skin.... There is sh*t everywhere.


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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by Pursuivant » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:43 pm

Well sparklegemini, the only thing to do is once you get the information off Nordea is to go to the police and make a "rikosilmoitus" - as for you ever seeing your money... meh...
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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by Keravalainen » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:56 pm

Hi!
This Tia Qvick seems to be a well know name among victims of Tori.fi fraud victims. Also Natalia Jokinen.
http://muusikoiden.net/keskustelu/posts ... 9300&o=420
http://www.digicamera.net/keskus/viewto ... 387eb7980c
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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by sparklegemini » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:29 pm

thanks everyone
i reported to the police yesterday
hope the best things
if i need to go to the court? how will be it ? i only need my money, how many percents i will receive of my lost money.
anyone was in the court before?


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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by onkko » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:58 pm

sparklegemini wrote:thanks everyone
i reported to the police yesterday
hope the best things
if i need to go to the court? how will be it ? i only need my money, how many percents i will receive of my lost money.
anyone was in the court before?
When its ready to go to court (at least months) then prosecutor will ask for your demands and prosecutor will tell you what you need to do. You probably dont have to go in court.
And about how much you get back, ill say in next 5 to 10 years you probably see nothing. Your money is probably already used/hidden and she probably wont have anything worth/possible to "foreclosure". Only idiot with forecloseable assets do frauds with 100% possibility to get caught.
You can/should turn to ulosotto with legal papers from court after conviction and they try to get your money but dont hold your breath if she isnt working/own forecloseable stuff.
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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by sparklegemini » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:14 pm

thanks, yes it turns to be that in every country has the different cons. i do like Finland educational system and medical treatment infrastructure.
one morething, because of getting upset about the fraudser, i tried to call him so many time and even made him mad when i made a lot of miss calls ( by auto calling) to teach him a lesson.
he replied with impolite sentences and dare me to report it to the police. should i continue do that to make him report it to the police and then i know who is he ?
what should i do ?


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Re: Huuto fraud ? What to do ?

Post by rinso » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:31 am

i tried to call him so many time and even made him mad when i made a lot of miss calls ( by auto calling) to teach him a lesson.
he replied with impolite sentences and dare me to report it to the police. should i continue do that to make him report it to the police and then i know who is he ?
what should i do ?
That action borders on stalking and he can take action against it. The police probably will give you a warning and order you to stop. Only when you continue after that it'll become more serious.
The real problem is that when the police knocks on your door (or phones you) you need clear prove of his fraudulent behavior. If you cannot convince them, you're the bad guy, not him.
But I guess unless he's stupid he'll not report you.

Disclaimer: I cannot predict the reaction of the police with 100% certainty. They might consider stalking more serious than fraud.


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