Is Finland really running out of numbers and NEEDS to re-use numbers? And expecially within a year.
Did I miss this in the article?
http://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9488689
Changing numbers is no easy remedy!
Recycled numbers
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The article suggests a considerable chunk of subscriber numbers are held by SIM cards which are actually not used in phones at all but in 3G/4G modems, trail cameras, buoys (!), dog GPS/GSM collars — you name it... (burglar alarms, some tablet computers, and ebook readers, too!)harryc wrote:Is Finland really running out of numbers and NEEDS to re-use numbers? And expecially within a year.
Did I miss this in the article?
http://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9488689
I am a bit doubtful if mobile data-only scenarios technically require a subscriber number. But I would not be surprised in the slightest if telcos have these old, crummy subscriber management systems which will not work without nominally assigning each subscriber module a “telephone number” — even if that number would never get used, and actually cannot be dialed.
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OK - thanks comments
I do wonder why there cannot be some kind of phone number registry (Ficora - or?) and 'used' numbers kept in some kind of' buffer quarantine' for 3-5 years.
I do wonder why there cannot be some kind of phone number registry (Ficora - or?) and 'used' numbers kept in some kind of' buffer quarantine' for 3-5 years.
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I once lost a phone number (DNA prepaid), because I forgot to refill it in time, though there was something like a 15 euros balance still available.
I could not get my money back, nor I could get the number restored.. I had to call all places like banks to change my number which was a mess.
I don't know how it works in other countries, but here the system is very inflexible. My suggestion: always refill you sim card with the smallest amount available, don't make them cheat you with their "bonuses"
I could not get my money back, nor I could get the number restored.. I had to call all places like banks to change my number which was a mess.
I don't know how it works in other countries, but here the system is very inflexible. My suggestion: always refill you sim card with the smallest amount available, don't make them cheat you with their "bonuses"
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This is quite common in other countries with more citizens, otherwise the numbers would become too long. I know some countries use a "quarantine period" as you call it, of 6 months before a number is re-issued.harryc wrote:OK - thanks comments
I do wonder why there cannot be some kind of phone number registry (Ficora - or?) and 'used' numbers kept in some kind of' buffer quarantine' for 3-5 years.
Happened to me several times, in several countries, I mean getting people that wanted to speak to the previous owner of the number. So nothing weird there, I was just amazed reading this article that it seems that until now this was apparently no common practice in Finland. I guess they did not have the need for it yet due to low population (just over 5mil.)
If god would give us the source code, we could change the world
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Someone needs to do the 'numbers' - but I doubt there aren't enough numbers to have a buffer period of several years-
Just 050- gives a potential of 9,999,999 numbers -
040 - another 10 million
0400 and 0500 2 million more
045 and 046 - 20 million
'Beginning' numbers no longer designate operator.
Just 050- gives a potential of 9,999,999 numbers -
040 - another 10 million
0400 and 0500 2 million more
045 and 046 - 20 million
'Beginning' numbers no longer designate operator.
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most of the prepaid pay as you go sims requires at least 1 top up a year. I've been with DNA prepaid for 6 years and solved the problem very easily by adding an alarm on my phone which goes off a couple of weeks before expiry date. By the way I find DNA special offers very good, for example for this week there is 30% extra credit for top up over 25 euros.Anqrew wrote:I once lost a phone number (DNA prepaid), because I forgot to refill it in time, though there was something like a 15 euros balance still available.
I could not get my money back, nor I could get the number restored.. I had to call all places like banks to change my number which was a mess.
I don't know how it works in other countries, but here the system is very inflexible. My suggestion: always refill you sim card with the smallest amount available, don't make them cheat you with their "bonuses"
Doing research online I found that the best pay as you go sim, when it comes to expyring credit and sim validity is the one offered by air baltic, which only requires a minimum of 1 call every 2 years, not even top up, just a chargable call. The problem is that you'll have an estonian number.