Citizenship Application 2017

[Nur.N]

Just wanted to share since I was following this thread since long time ago. I got a decision recently, things are processed considerably faster:
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02/03/2017 You have proved your identity and a diary number has been created for your application. You can see the diary number at the top of the page. Your application has been placed in a processing queue.
03/03/2017 A customer number has been created for you. You can see your customer number at the top of the page.
20/06/2017 The processing of your application has started. Contacting us does not speed up the processing of the application. If we need further information from you, we will send you a request through this service.
26/06/2017 Your application is waiting for your reply to a request for supplementary information.
26/06/2017 You have replied to a request for supplementary information.
29/06/2017 A decision has been made on your application.
29/06/2017 The decision can be read on your user account.
29/06/2017 You have received the decision.
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Best luck for those who are waiting.

Great news! Congrats!
Did you apply from Helsinki?

Yes, from Helsinki.

[italosuomalainen]

I just received the decision on my application. My own time line:

August 1985 - August 1989: lived in Finland as the child of a diplomat (from age 14 - 18))
August 2014 - present: living and working in Finland as an Italian/EU citizen

Although I fulfill the language requirements, I do NOT fulfill the accumulated residence time requirement according to the Maahanmuuttovirasto. Apparently, residing in Finland as a diplomat involves a type of residence permit that is NOT considered belonging to the canonical residence permits.

Therefore, my application has been rejected.

This decision is what it is. But on many levels, I don't consider it fair and reasonable. If the letter of the law counts time spent in Finland from age 15, it should be more than obvious, both from the documents I provided, and from simple inductive reasoning, that

1) I was physically present here at that age,
2) At that age, I would not have had any control over the circumstances of my stay here, no matter what type of residence permit I/my family had had then.

Now, should I try appealing this decision...or do I just wait another year and try again? Is my line of reasoning above altogether flawed? Why start the accumulated residency clock at age 15 when it's obvious that in the overwhelming majority of cases, a non-Finnish 15-year-old wouldn't reside in Finland without their parents or guardians? That that same 15-year-old would have no influence over the choice of their parents' profession, and thus over the circumstances of residency?

[Beep_Boop]

Now, should I try appealing this decision...or do I just wait another year and try again?

The appeal has the potential of taking so long that you'd be eligible already, and becoming eligible (in addition to satisfying the other conditions) is an almost guaranteed positive decision, while the appeal is a gamble.

[italosuomalainen]

Now, should I try appealing this decision...or do I just wait another year and try again?

The appeal has the potential of taking so long that you'd be eligible already, and becoming eligible (in addition to satisfying the other conditions) is an almost guaranteed positive decision, while the appeal is a gamble.

I suspect you're right. But before I assume anything: does anyone here have experience with how long appeals take?

[challengingtimes]

Now, should I try appealing this decision...or do I just wait another year and try again?

The appeal has the potential of taking so long that you'd be eligible already, and becoming eligible (in addition to satisfying the other conditions) is an almost guaranteed positive decision, while the appeal is a gamble.

I suspect you're right. But before I assume anything: does anyone here have experience with how long appeals take?

I have consistently heard 10-12 months from multiple sources.

[brexit]

Now, should I try appealing this decision...or do I just wait another year and try again?

The appeal has the potential of taking so long that you'd be eligible already, and becoming eligible (in addition to satisfying the other conditions) is an almost guaranteed positive decision, while the appeal is a gamble.

I suspect you're right. But before I assume anything: does anyone here have experience with how long appeals take?

You may ask these people here. http://finnishimmigrationlaw.com/ They might even give you some hint if the case is strong or not.

[challengingtimes]

Anyone facing problems with migri contact number 0295 419 600 and 0295 419 624.
They are always busy. It seems there is no staff for responding in summer vacations for those numbers?

[brexit]

Anyone facing problems with migri contact number 0295 419 600 and 0295 419 624.
They are always busy. It seems there is no staff for responding in summer vacations for those numbers?

I think you just need to keep trying continuously until you get connected.

[bigli]

Anyone facing problems with migri contact number 0295 419 600 and 0295 419 624.
They are always busy. It seems there is no staff for responding in summer vacations for those numbers?

This is number they have on their website for citizenship matters: +358 295 419 626 and they only answe a few hours a week, you can find more info here: http://www.migri.fi/our_services/custom ... ip_matters

[bigli]

Do you get an email from migri when your application goes to the second stage if no further documents or information is needed? Or just when they need something from you? I know you get notified when the descion is made, but I'm wondering about the previous stage.

[brexit]

Do you get an email from migri when your application goes to the second stage if no further documents or information is needed? Or just when they need something from you? I know you get notified when the descion is made, but I'm wondering about the previous stage.

In my case they didn't send me any messages when it went to the second stage. But when they need something they will send a message.

[papi123nwa]

Hello everyone,
Is it normal for citizenship application to take more than 13 months ? I applied on june 2016 but there is no decision yet. I came in as a student and started working after graduation. They asked for supplement information on april and i replied. I feel like an outlier and that sucks.

[bigli]

Hello everyone,
Is it normal for citizenship application to take more than 13 months ? I applied on june 2016 but there is no decision yet. I came in as a student and started working after graduation. They asked for supplement information on april and i replied. I feel like an outlier and that sucks.

I would suggest tat you contact migri. They have a number dedicated to citizenship matters which I have posted earlier. Because your case has taken longer than their estimates, and I think they would provide further information if you call.
But, I don't think you are necessarily an outlier. Here, most people post their timelines when they get a decision, but there might be a lot of people, even on this forum, who are in the same situation that you do not hear about.

[brexit]

Hello everyone,
Is it normal for citizenship application to take more than 13 months ? I applied on june 2016 but there is no decision yet. I came in as a student and started working after graduation. They asked for supplement information on april and i replied. I feel like an outlier and that sucks.

I suggest you to contact migri at their citizenship matters line. Details below taken from migri website

Citizenship

Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays, 10.00–11.00.

Citizenship matters

+358 295 419 626

[podzap]

Hello everyone,
Is it normal for citizenship application to take more than 13 months ? I applied on june 2016 but there is no decision yet. I came in as a student and started working after graduation. They asked for supplement information on april and i replied. I feel like an outlier and that sucks.

Mine took more than 13 months as well, applied in early February 2016 and got decision in end of March 2017. There was nothing special about my case. It just took a long freaking time.