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YLE - Police

Post by harryc » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:13 pm

Finnish press and police still want us to think stabber was some deranged grandmother

Rest of the world:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... e-11010652



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Post by harryc » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:49 am

Good chance the yelling was 'varo, varokaa'

http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/18/man-shot- ... d-6862413/


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Post by Karhunkoski » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:35 am

Let's wait to see if the BBC comes out with their old favourite, "we may never know what brought this person to commit such a heinous crime".

On the subject of self-censorship of the media, here you have Simon Jenkins (ex editor of The Times giving his view:

https://youtu.be/bRhJsWe9rjY?t=628

And here Douglas somebody gives an articulate response to the dangers of one-sided media:

https://youtu.be/bRhJsWe9rjY?t=588


Pretty sure it was "Varokaa!" and not anything more sinister.

Apparently 4 guys arrested in a Turku flat raid during the night.
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Re: YLE - Police

Post by harryc » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:37 am

On the subject of self-censorship of the media
I was a member of something called the Western Press Club here. It was formed by the 'Western correspondents' in Finland in WW2.

We had a meeting in '87-'88 with 2 guests from YLE that were the YLE reporters in Moscow. They told how they knew themselves (!!!!!!) what not to report back to Finland - and they were very proud telling us how clever they were to know what NOT to say!!

I called them out on that ridiculous self-censorship and said that was much more dangerous when applied by oneself. They really didn't 'get it.'


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Post by Marsh04 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:35 pm

If you want to keep your job you have to know what not to report. You must be living in a world of fools if you believe that there is any newspaper/news group which publishes everything they know from every side. All have their own agendas/guidelines and they act accordingly. There is no absolute or even closer to that free/honest media.


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Post by harryc » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:41 pm

Some people have principles and professionalism.

I wonder how your post applies to the Finnish YLE reporters telling how they were so clever they knew what would disturb their Soviet hosts - or maybe even disturb their Finnish employer.

No doubt there are many Trump sycophants not opening their mouths as they are hoping they will get an invite to crap in his gold-plated toilet.


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Post by harryc » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:25 am

As for this actual story - it is quite disappointing how international media was all over this story LONG before YLE got their shoes on. And the story is IN FINLAND!

We are now paying millions via a non-progressive tax to YLE for media coverage and are getting ZILCH.

(rant)


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Re: YLE - Police

Post by irnbru » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:56 am

harryc wrote:As for this actual story - it is quite disappointing how international media was all over this story LONG before YLE got their shoes on. And the story is IN FINLAND!

We are now paying millions via a non-progressive tax to YLE for media coverage and are getting ZILCH.

(rant)
If yle is anything like the BBC the news is always delayed. First it has to be doctored to ensure it doesn't offend the minorities that have just been killing us.


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Post by Honest » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:09 am

For people like you better and more appropriate source of information/news would be mv lehti. They publish immediately what you want to read. Sometimes when nothing is happening for a while to feed your hatred they would spin something to make people like you happy and satisfied so that you don't get depressed. Depression is already a huge problem in Finland.


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Post by harryc » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:53 am

For people like you better and more appropriate source of information/news would be mv lehti. They publish immediately what you want to read..
Thank you Donald Drumpf with your Fake and Hate News 'My Lehti' and, no doubt, your tweets. Then again "No, thanks"


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Re: YLE - Police

Post by irnbru » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:11 pm

Honest wrote:For people like you better and more appropriate source of information/news would be mv lehti. They publish immediately what you want to read. Sometimes when nothing is happening for a while to feed your hatred they would spin something to make people like you happy and satisfied so that you don't get depressed. Depression is already a huge problem in Finland.
People like me prefer free press where the facts are reported immediately. Not the Guardian or BBC version of the news pandering to people like you.


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Re: YLE - Police

Post by Oombongo » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:11 pm

should have left Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi in control. Now same crap is happening in Syria. Operation Timber Sycamore?
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Post by Honest » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:29 pm

Oombongo wrote:should have left Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi in control. Now same crap is happening in Syria. Operation Timber Sycamore?
That's the root cause of the problem. There were almost no attacks in Europe before 1990s. It all started when us pulled or forced all European countries with them into illegal and inhumane invasion of independent countries. That resulted in hundreds of thousands of innocents being killed and millions displaced. Stop these wars and things might improve.


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Post by Honest » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:39 pm

irnbru wrote: People like me prefer free press where the facts are reported immediately. Not the Guardian or BBC version of the news pandering to people like you.
Here are some facts which media is not reporting, international media not at all and Finnish media also very poorly. So, you are right to some extent that media should report facts immediately.

1- The guy is a depressed soul with abnormal behaviour in everyday life
2- The guy is not even a practicing Muslim. As far as I know practicing Muslims don't drink so don't go to bars and pubs.
3- The %age of killings and shooting by foreigners are far below than the Finns even in terms of percentage.
4- Around the same time a Finnish man murdered his wife in Ruissalo with a gun. And yes, unfortunately Finland has one of the worst record of domestic violence against the women in Europe. And Finns also lead the way in killing their wives and girfriends.

And here are all the sources to satisfy your hunger for facts

http://www.ts.fi/uutiset/paikalliset/36 ... entuneelta

http://m.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/201708192 ... 5_u0.shtml

http://www.ts.fi/uutiset/paikalliset/36 ... uissalossa


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Re: YLE - Police

Post by irnbru » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:31 pm

The only fact that concerns me us the fact 2 people are dead. One a mother pushing her one year old in a pram. You can make apologies for his religion and compare his deeds to Finns as you see fit.


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