Katsoppa Tama - what does it mean>?

[ltumbula]

This came up in an email from one of our customers in Finland.
Thanks for your reply!

[Dan]

It means "Look at this".

[kalmisto]

>> It means "Look at this!" <<

Yes, and "tama" should be "tämä",of course.

[alloydog]

>> It means "Look at this!" <<

Yes, and "tama" should be "tämä",of course.

be grateful you're not up in Oulu, or it'll be dama !

[kalmisto]

I happen to be in Oulu at the moment.

[alloydog]

I happen to be in Oulu at the moment.

no niin, selevä

[kalmisto]

>> be grateful you´re not up in Oulu or it will be "dama" <<

I do not deny the possibility that some Finns might say "dama" for "tämä" but I do not think that they come originally from Oulu. I have been here in Oulu many many times and I have never heard anyone say that. I am sure that I would have noticed.

It is true that "oululites" have a dialect of their own. For instance they say "täsä talosa" ( in this house ) instead of "tässä talossa". In other words: one "s" disappears from the inessive case ending. Oululites do this systematically.

Ever heard of "Ouluraattori"? It translates standard Finnish into Oulu dialect. It´s here :

http://www.netello.fi/cgi-bin/netellocom/oulu.cgi

[PeterF]

Oulu dialect is easy peasy compared to the Savo ..
They Ef about with verbs..
mennä they pronounce mäni and they use it in every tense..Go/gone/went..and one of their favorite expressions is.
kaik on vituks män.. all has gone to F = "it is all Ef'd up!"..

[alloydog]

It is true that "oululites" have a dialect of their own. For instance they say "täsä talosa" ( in this house ) instead of "tässä talossa". In other words: one "s" disappears from the inessive case ending. Oululites do this systematically.

There is supposed to be a distinct Oulun dialect, they've even published Aku Ankka in it, (the trend was started with a Savo version). But to be honest, Oulu is a fast growing region, and has a lot of people from all around Finland. There are nuances in the local language, but they are quite subtle. I found it means you can get away with less than perfect Finnish, especially with pronounciation of Y and Ö, and still be understood. Though the usual responce is for the Finn to reply to you in English ! Here in th ecapital area, I've found the responce is mor elikely to be "Tä ?"

[kalmisto]

Live from Rotuaari ( a street for pedestrians only ) in Oulu :

http://www.panoraama.com/live/index.html

[anja]

I'd even say that rather than "tämä" you'd use the word "tätä".
--all in all the whole thing would be spelled like this:

katsopa tätä = (why don't you/go ahead and) look at this

so you notice there's just one "p" in the word "katsopa" although you'll hear people pronounce it as if there were two of them [katsoppa].
The -pa/-pä -suffix translates to why don't you../go ahead and...

for example..
why don't you../go ahead and write: kirjoitapa
why don't you../go ahead and explain: selitäpä
why don't you../go ahead and run: juoksepa
why don't you../go ahead and sing: laulapa

[kalmisto]

anja

Olet tietysti oikeassa = You are right, of course.

[kalmisto]

PeterF

Can you explain the difference between these two sentences? :

"Katso tämä elokuva!" and "Katso tätä elokuvaa!"

Helppo kysymys,vai mitä?

elokuva = movie

helppo = easy

kysymys = question

[kalmisto]

alloydog

What is the difference between these two sentences?:

"Katso tämä mies!" and "Katso tätä miestä?"

[Dan]

One you have your eye on, the other you are fondling. I'll wait for alloydog to reply first.