-uo- is one syllable ??

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-uo- is one syllable ??

Post by Phil » Sun Oct 31, 2004 3:26 pm

I never realized until just now that any Finnish syllabel containing -uo- is considered one syllable, but in English people would think this is two syllables.

English: Su-o-ma-lai-nen
Finnish: Suo-ma-lai-nen

Are there any other syllables that are different in Finnish than from English?


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Post by Frypan » Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:14 pm

Do you mean diphthongs? Here's a list and some pretty graphics..

http://www.helsinki.fi/hum/hyfl/Finnish ... ongit.html

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Post by bess2 » Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:48 pm

if I remember correctly, there are some 8 diphtongs in English whereas in Finnish there are 16.
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Post by Phil » Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:49 pm

Frypan wrote:Do you mean diphthongs? Here's a list and some pretty graphics..

http://www.helsinki.fi/hum/hyfl/Finnish ... ongit.html

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Fry, you always got the best online Finnish resources. :thumbsup:

Are all dipthongs one syllable?? Like is "ie" in tie considered just one syllable?
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Post by khu » Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:20 pm

I think that's the sum of it, but I wouldn't get caught up too much on what is or is not a 'syllable'. Technically a syllable can be more than a single diphthong.

Language and linguistics comes down to what and how people say things, and theoretical notions don't necessarily help. Just use your ears carefully, and say what they say. :)
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Post by kalmisto » Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:27 pm

See the syllables in the Finnish word "kuningatar"! :

http://www.lingsoft.fi/cgi-bin/finhyp?word=kuningatar

Am I the only person who knows about these language tools?

IMPORTANT : FINHYP is for hyphenation, not syllabification! I was wrong!

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Post by Frypan » Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:45 pm

FINHYP is for hyphenation (determining when a word will split over two lines in a fully justified document eg newspaper column) not syllabification. I think. Quite a different thing.

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Post by kalmisto » Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:37 pm

Frypan wrote:FINHYP is for hyphenation (determining when a word will split over two lines in a fully justified document eg newspaper column) not syllabification. I think. Quite a different thing.

--fry
Yes, you are right. Thanks for the correction! I hang my head in shame.
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