FinlandGirl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:46 am
Any person of at least average intelligence immediately recognizes that a text that does not even contain the word "Dutch" does not support your fake news that the Dutch were the reason for the foundation of Helsinki.
Any person not knowing trade in the Baltics in that time were done mostly by the biggest see power of Europe: the Dutch, should brush up on their History and think twice calling out someone else’s intelligence, which seems to indicate that you never got good grades at in school. So only mentioning the trade in that time with Tallinn, is enough to know it were the Dutch. The dutch were a world super power in that time, both in trade and in Navy. We actually sunk the Spanish Armada that came to punish us for our insolence..
FinlandGirl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:46 am
Any claims that Hans van Sanden was definitely Dutch are fake news, this is only a guess based on the name.
The exact inscription on the original gravestone is also unclear and disputed, part of it was guessed when the copy that exists today was made 300 years later.
The word "van" means it is Dutch, if it were "von" it is German. The difference between
In any case, the information that he was Dutch, comes from the Ambassador of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, from his speech to the Finnish Swedisch Estonian and Norwegian MP's and military personnel, on the Marine ships docked in Helsinki Harbor in 2013 (Zr. Ms. De Ruyter & Zr. Ms. Evertsen). I was there too, on board, as being invited, talking with the top brass of EU Military, going to Kluuvi Hotel afterwards because there was a meeting. Contents of the meeting is classified but be assured the things these people tell are rarely fake news.
So if you say it is fake news, you accuse the Ambassador of the Kingdom of the Netherlands of lying in an international official Military meeting.... good for you!
FinlandGirl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:46 am
You seem to be very determined to demonstrate continuously that you are not capable of reading and understanding even a simple text.
I would like to make the same remark about you instead. (something about a pot and a kettle?)
FinlandGirl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:46 am
Any normal person understands that the statement "Finns may be more closely related to the Dutch than to Hungarians" does not make any claims whether Finns are even closer related to Estonians or Swedes, and your absurd claim "most similarities from all European nationalities with the Dutch" can only be called fake news that was invented by you and is not written in this Yle article.
It is a matter of logic, as you state yourself already, the article does not mention any of that, however if you combine that with the headline, it would have been mentioned in the article, if Finns were closer related to Estonians or Swedes and it is not.
Why would it otherwise be newsworthy to mention "Dutch" at all?
Therefore the conclusion I made is not at all far fetched. Or would you say the title is just clickbait?
FinlandGirl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:46 am
There is no international law banning countries from requiring a minimum salary or a degree for granting a residence permit or for granting citizenship, in countries with an intelligent points based immigration system like Australia a PhD gives more points towards the minimum required for a visa than a Master's degree.
I never said restrictions on entering are discrimination, your remark was discriminating.
But as you continuously accuse me of, maybe you should learn to read properly yourself... (I recall something about a pot and a kettle again?)
Somalis with a master degree are cleaners in Finland and do according to you, not contribute to society like Russians with a master degree.
Or do you want to imply with your remark that Somalis cannot have a master degree? and all Russians have one?
Lets take your remark and turn it around and replace the words Somali and Russian, would you still agree to that remark? I bet the answer is no, therefor it is discriminating.
Your remark was discriminating at least and almost bordering hate speech, like a significant part of your posts on this forum if I recall correctly.. (no not going to sift through them, I have to enjoy my retirement too).
It is obvious you hate the foreigners and according to your remark to Nukku Matti, especially those that come to Finland for love, either from EU or elsewhere. You call people that immigrate for love, people that ruin it for others, but these are the people that create babies that will later pay taxes and change your diaper... if you are so lucky and not have teased them away...
You should reconsider your point of view, like the current government... it is and remains a bad plan, regardless of the difference in our views and interpretations of some Yle articles which are just semantics and stories to let you see how wrong you are in these believes about foreigners and the need for them. There is a reason companies (and their shareholders) think it is a bad idea too, and this is of course out of earning money themselves, but do not forget, if they earn money, so does the Finnish state by receiving taxes… not everything goes to the shareholders alone. You only have to look at the amount of cleaning companies in Finland, working only with foreigners because Finnish people just do not want to do it, especially for that salary.
I had a cleaner last year, paid for by the city (koti-palvelu) when I had a medical problem, he was a foreigner with a doctoral degree, fired at a big Finnish company after Corona benefits for companies stopped. He went from a salary of 6000/kk to 1600/kk (I did not ask brute or nett).
He had to! otherwise he would lose his residence permit.
He moved here with his Family with 3 young kids and sold all his belongings in his home country, no easy way back. His wife was working as a cleaner now too because of the income limit for families, the city paid him now child care services for his children because he had 3 young kids they could not take care of themselves full time, because of the long and time consuming jobs on erratic hours needed for the income requirements of their permit….
He did not want to stay in Finland, but could not return with his family to his home country yet. That situation is so illogical and wrong to me.
Basically it all comes down on the following question and choice: do I want to share with others (Socialist or like the bible prescribes like a good Christian would know), or am I selfish and will I take advantage of each and everyone in my life to make sure I am ok and do not care about others (like a true capitalist or fake christian in name only will do).
I think there is no progress in your ability to comprehend and use logic, nor is there any realization of how bad your situation will be when you get really old (if ever), so I will give you the last word, as if you would not just take that.
I am going to use my time more efficient in regards to enjoying my retirement paid by Finnish workers/taxes now I still can. Have fun and call me names whatever you want.. I trust in the truth of my Fake news. I will check in a few months your answers again (if any). It was fun for a little while but now I get bored...last thing, you should get a date with Nukku Matti, he is really a nice guy when you get to know him.. trust me at least on that…
toedeloe!
