Finnish and Japanese
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The first time I’ve come across with Japanese language was at a local primary school in Waikiki suburbs. There was a Japanese teacher who taught us the numbers 1 to 10 in Japanese. Her name was Ain’t-No-Way. According to her, the numbers were Itch, knee, sun, she, go, rock, hitch, hatch, Q, and Jew. I used to think that Japanese was related to English, then. Later, I’ve learnt that her real name was Ms. Inoue.
Years came, years went. Now my childhood dreams are all gone. Instead, I’ve got a pair of nice boobs. Still, I remember the teacher very well in my dreams. Maybe she was my first love.
t, masao
The first time I’ve come across with Japanese language was at a local primary school in Waikiki suburbs. There was a Japanese teacher who taught us the numbers 1 to 10 in Japanese. Her name was Ain’t-No-Way. According to her, the numbers were Itch, knee, sun, she, go, rock, hitch, hatch, Q, and Jew. I used to think that Japanese was related to English, then. Later, I’ve learnt that her real name was Ms. Inoue.
Years came, years went. Now my childhood dreams are all gone. Instead, I’ve got a pair of nice boobs. Still, I remember the teacher very well in my dreams. Maybe she was my first love.
t, masao
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Wow... gosh I really thoroughly enjoyed this topic!! Thanks all for such a great discussion. I'm new here, and am Japanese, and I have a Finn friend head-over-heals taken by sumo ( Japanese traditional wrestling ) , which eventually got him sooooooo much into Japanese-language. As giving him little help here and there, I am coming to realize how different and also how close Japanese and Finnish languages are. And it's always fun to see.
She must be a very good teacher It makes a lot more sense to teach foreign students numbers like this than boring ichi, ni, san, shi, go, roku, shichi, hachi, kyuu, juu..the numbers were Itch, knee, sun, she, go, rock, hitch, hatch, Q, and Jew.
Setsunai desu ne....Oh, my dear Kimiko-san.
Love me or leave me lonely.
Last edited by Kyoko on Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
What about connecting Indo-European and Uralic:Kompostiturska wrote:Oh dear, this topic felt so interesting that I had to register
The most obvious resemblance is the thing matildemichi already mentioned. The indicator of a question. In Indoeuropean languages, for example, a question is made by changing the order of words. In Finnish, Estonian and Japanese, a question is indicated with "-ko/-kö" (FIN), "kas" (EST) or "ka" (JAP).
Nihongo o hanashimasu ka?
Puhutko suomea?
Kas sä räägit eesti keelt?
If those three aren't close relatives, I'll eat my socks. Another thing very similar is the indicator of possession; in Japanese, "my (something)" is "watashi no(something)", which is very similar to the Finnish genitive form, most surprisingly "-n".
Uralic 1. person pronoun: "mi(n-)" IE: "me(ne)" (Finnish minä, English me, mine)
Uralic 2. person pronoun: "ti(n-)" IE: "tu"/"te" (there is "s" in Finnish "sinä" because some thousand years ago "t" became "s" when next sound was "i", English "thou"/"thee")
Uralic "ku-"/"ke-", "-ko", IE: "kwi", "kwo", "kw-" (Finnish kuka, ke-, kuinka , -ko, English who, what etc, Latin qui, quo etc)
Uralic "to-", IE "to-" (Finnish "tuo", English "the", "that")
Uralic "wete", IE "wed-", "wodor" (Finnish vesi, English wet, water)
Uralic and-clitic "-ka/-kä", IE "-kwe" (Finnish "eikä" = "and not", Latin -que as in Senatus PopulusQUE Romanus)
Uralic locative "-na", IE preposition "en" (Finnish "kotoNA", "takaNA", English "in")
Uralic accusative "-m", IE "-m" (Finnish "-n" - m becomes n when it is the final sound, Latin acc. "-m", English pronoun acc. "whoM"
Uralic ablative "-ta", IE "-d" (modern Finnish partitive)
Uralic "nime", IE "nomen" (Finnish "nimi", English "name")
Uralic "kala", IE "(s)kwal" (Finnish kala=fish, English whale, Latin squalus)
Uralic "too-" IE "daH" (Finnish "tuo-" = bring, Latin "dare"=to give
Here's some Latin verb conjugation (to give), does these endings sound any familiar:
Present indicative do das dat damus datis dunt
Present conjunctive dem des det demus detis dent
Past passive participle datus, data, datum
In Finnish (to bring):
Present indicative tuon tuot tuo tuomme tuotte tuovat
Past passive participle tuotu
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