Remember IT bubble? Of course not. IT will be hit hard too, because it provides stuff for other businesses. If other businesses can't afford to get new software and lisences, IT has less jobs.finlandforumuser wrote:If economic slowdown hits the world then it will be less jobs in every area. Currently, IT is least affected area. Anyway, it is not wise to plan your future in pessimistic expectations only.Tiwaz wrote: Yet, everyone is not IT wizard. And competition even in that field can be tough, depending on location.
Right now they are hiring left and right, but as economic slowdown hits, there will be less jobs.
So why you pretend that they somehow have to hire immigrant idjit who can't do the lingo?Oh, really, excellent conclusion!Tiwaz wrote: Employers are not social security.
And jobs available in this area are... Not that common. Also very gratifying for someone with higher education to become the trashcan guy.This is above is somewhat un-true. The biggest issue in job hunter for foreign is work permit, only next, is the language. The language requirement is not equal in all specialities, there are 3 categories (IMHO):Tiwaz wrote: But ground rule is that no finnish = no job.
1. housekeeping, window cleaning, garbage collection, etc. Here is language requirements are very basic. 300 words is good enough.
Basically everything where you are expected to communicate with finns requires finnish.2. Some mid class jobs, like factory workers, clerks, sails mans, etc. Here is yes, normally, it is very hard to get a job without Finnish language.
3. Qualified professionals, software programmers, doctors, teachers, engineers, etc. As more skills you have, aka, as more profit a person can make for its company as less need in his Finnish language. Commonly, the salaries at this group is much better then in first two. If you target on this group, you should decide where spend your effort on learning language or growing up professional skills and obtaining certificates. Also, I guess, you understand, that even you would learn the language you will be just as equal as other finns, but you should be better to competitive.
Only in rare cases.
First, you have to be competent. MORE competent than your finnish competitors. Who are not exactly nonexistent.
Second, job has to be one which does not require finnish. So jobs in companies who mainly do business in Finland will be out of question, specially if you are expected to communicate with clients.
And again, you need to be in position where you are not expected to communicate.
Your suggestion of teacher and doctor are precisely ones where finnish is must.
Most positions requiring competent teacher require you to teach to finns. Guess what language finns are taught in... In FINNISH.
Because teacher who can't get students to learn because he/she can't make him/herself understood is waste of money.
Doctor. You are worthless as doctor if there is huge risk of misunderstanding because you do not understand language of patient.
Maybe in some uncivilized parts of the world it is considered valid method to communicate with patient with hand signals and pantomime, but over here it is risk of malpractice and unacceptable.