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Ccharlotte
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As animalfriendly as possible products (meat)

Post by Ccharlotte » Mon May 20, 2019 12:41 pm

Hello,

I notice a severe lack of animal"friendly" (or as animalfriendly as it can get) meats and the like in Finland. It's probably just me, I hope, but I'd really like to be able to buy, structurally, meat/eggs/milk/cheese and so on from animals that have not been criminally mistreated their entire life. I do know that even the "friendlier" products are not superfriendly, but for personal reasons a vegetarian diet is not a option.

I'm willing to pay more, of course, but right now I don't even know where to begin. In prisma just now I found 1 kind of chicken breast that was "biological", but the pricetag was legit double that of the non-bio version. I paid over 20 euro for 700g of chicken. Phew. But I could not find anything friendly-ish in the porc section, for example.

I know Lidl carries quite some biological products that are fairly priced, but to be honest, biological usually just means the animals get biological food, but their living circumstances are still absolutely useless.

Who can help me with indicating what tags, marks, brands, icons or any helpful info that could be located on products that can tell me more about what kind of life the animals have had? I know there are (European) guidelines and even laws for the treatment of animals, so there must be something? Also, if there are any special shops I could go to, where I have a selection of animal products that are as "friendly" as it gets, let me know. I live in Espoo and am willing to drive serious distances for it.

I know it's not a perfect world yet for animal rearing etc, but we gotta start somewhere, and I just want to support the "friendlier" aspects so hopefully, animals get treated better and better in the future.

Thank you for your help. And just to reiterate in case some knight missed the part about vegetarian food: I'm really not interested in a discussion about vegetarian diets. ;)



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Upphew
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Re: As animalfriendly as possible products (meat)

Post by Upphew » Mon May 20, 2019 1:29 pm

Ccharlotte wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 12:41 pm
Hello,

I notice a severe lack of animal"friendly" (or as animalfriendly as it can get) meats and the like in Finland. It's probably just me, I hope, but I'd really like to be able to buy, structurally, meat/eggs/milk/cheese and so on from animals that have not been criminally mistreated their entire life. I do know that even the "friendlier" products are not superfriendly, but for personal reasons a vegetarian diet is not a option.

I'm willing to pay more, of course, but right now I don't even know where to begin. In prisma just now I found 1 kind of chicken breast that was "biological", but the pricetag was legit double that of the non-bio version. I paid over 20 euro for 700g of chicken. Phew. But I could not find anything friendly-ish in the porc section, for example.

I know Lidl carries quite some biological products that are fairly priced, but to be honest, biological usually just means the animals get biological food, but their living circumstances are still absolutely useless.

Who can help me with indicating what tags, marks, brands, icons or any helpful info that could be located on products that can tell me more about what kind of life the animals have had? I know there are (European) guidelines and even laws for the treatment of animals, so there must be something? Also, if there are any special shops I could go to, where I have a selection of animal products that are as "friendly" as it gets, let me know. I live in Espoo and am willing to drive serious distances for it.

I know it's not a perfect world yet for animal rearing etc, but we gotta start somewhere, and I just want to support the "friendlier" aspects so hopefully, animals get treated better and better in the future.

Thank you for your help. And just to reiterate in case some knight missed the part about vegetarian food: I'm really not interested in a discussion about vegetarian diets. ;)
Organic, luomu, is the best bet if you are buying from normal shops or markets. Or if you buy straight from the producer, then you most likely know how the animals do there.
Eg. https://www.luomunokka.fi/ http://luomupossu.fi/index.html
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Ccharlotte
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Re: As animalfriendly as possible products (meat)

Post by Ccharlotte » Mon May 20, 2019 1:50 pm

Yes, I know about luomu, but the problem is that there aren't so many products with this label at all in shops (prisma, k-market etc), so I was wondering what, if any, shops have more of those, if there are specialized shops, and/or if there's any other indication on products that is awarded by an overseeing institute for a product that has taken the well-being of animals more seriously in account than the usual products in that line.

Thanks for your time

harakka
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Re: As animalfriendly as possible products (meat)

Post by harakka » Mon May 20, 2019 4:57 pm

The Finnish Centre for Animal Welfare website includes an animal welfare report in English, and news about an animal welfare label that's a work in progress: https://www.elaintieto.fi/en/

For getting in touch with local farmers near Espoo, search for the REKO Esbo Espoo Alberga Leppävaara and REKO Espoo Olari groups on Facebook. You'll most likely have to pre-order and pick up from a certain location at a set time.

Shops: there are probably others as well, but try Anton & Anton in Helsinki. Their "food philosophy" claims to support better welfare for production animals. https://www.antonanton.fi/pages/kaupat

Eggs: Organic or free range ("ulkokananmunat").
Milk: A company called Juustoportti has a line of "Vapaan lehmän" milk products.
Meat: Game meat, sheep meat, reindeer, organic beef.

Chicken and pork production seems to have more issues, but there are farms that do take the welfare of animals to heart. For example chicken https://www.niittylintu.fi/ (also available via Anton & Anton) and pork http://olkipossu.fi/.

I'm not an expert on the subject, and it's difficult to say what is genuinely animal friendly, and what is marketing. A part of my reply is loosely based on this article: https://seura.fi/asiat/ajankohtaista/tu ... vinvointi/

inkku
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Re: As animalfriendly as possible products (meat)

Post by inkku » Mon May 20, 2019 8:17 pm

check REKO local organic food distribution groups.
luomulaakso.fi has lists of REKO groups and their links as well a list of farms producing organic stuff (meat, eggs, milk etc etc). ("luomutiloja")

Ccharlotte
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Re: As animalfriendly as possible products (meat)

Post by Ccharlotte » Mon May 20, 2019 8:17 pm

Thank you so much!! This is so much more than I hoped for. :D

inkku
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Re: As animalfriendly as possible products (meat)

Post by inkku » Mon May 20, 2019 8:18 pm

it you are in Helsinki, your province is uusimaa...


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