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Childsupport Question?

Post by Flossy1978 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:23 am

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Re: Childsupport Question?

Post by Flossy1978 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:36 am

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Re: Childsupport Question?

Post by rinso » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:47 am

Cory is right.
He has to pay the agreed sum. There is no connection to your salary.
(your earnings are only important if you get social security, and then it's still not his business)
Anyway, he claims on the net, the government has told a set amount of what it costs to raise a child at certain ages
Indeed, when the child gets older he has to pay more.
Call social services and get the details right.

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Re: Childsupport Question?

Post by Rip » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:52 am

Complicated issue, but
Flossy1978 wrote:His logic is, if I were to earn as much as him, he wouldn't be paying any childsupport at all. So in essence, not paying for his child at all.


...this is definitely false
The more I earn, the less he can pay he claims.
while this is true
Anyway, he claims on the net, the government has told a set amount of what it costs to raise a child at certain ages (I can't find it. It's not that I don't believe him, I just can't find it). He said you then take both salaries of the parents and somehow divide it up in some way so that the amount paid adds up to the amount the government thinks the child costs each month. And well, we know the Government amounts are !"#¤%. Only if you want your child to live in 5€ ulkovaatteet and eat only peasoup.
You can get guidance from the local 'lastenvalvoja' (a city official)
I could find a guideline (it is not the law, the actual amount to pay is what (in order preference) A) the parents can agree on B) is set by court)) from 2007 (so add little bit for inflation): For calculating the needs of the child you start with (based on age) with 250-390€/month, add (don't ask for clarification) 10-23% of the housing costs of the parent the kid is living with, add day care, hobby and other specific costs based on actual costs (up to a 'reasonable') limit. Take out 'lapsilisä' and other regular significant income the child may have. This is much financial support it is considered the child should get from his parents combined.

That total is then divided among parent in the ratio of their available incomes (incomes with allowances for own living expenses taken out). So, one really rich parent would end up paying almost all of the estimated need for the financial support, but not more than that .
I thought childsupport was based on the income of the parent who pays it. That it's based on the standard of living the child had before the divorce.
No, not really here, unless the payments are voluntarily. The law here does not think that a child of a multi-millionaire father (and by implication, child's divorced mother) should live the general lifestyle of a millionaire, if the father (with whom the child does not live) does not want to pay for that.
Do I really have to tell him every month if I get extra money? And then work out how much I should take off the childsupport?
The law says the amount of the payments can be changed if there has been significant changes in the ability to pay one of the parents. One-off small payments do not sound very 'significant' to me. Anyway, that would be his problem to convince the authorities that the payments need to be changed, if you have an existing proper agreement on the issue.

You do not have an actual official written agreement about the payments(?)

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Re: Childsupport Question?

Post by Flossy1978 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:41 pm

Thank you everyone for clearing it up.

We made and signed our own agreement. The sum is included in the agreement.

I think he is fair to me in what he pays and he helps me in one other way as well (it doesn't cost him anything, but his time). He is a very good Father aswell. We parent our child together well, no major problems. I do all the parenting, he is the fun parent ;) Which is fine :) I just don't understand his logic when it comes to child support. It's what makes me feel rotten over the whole thing and makes me want to say 'just forget paying it then'. I wouldn't take child support if I didn't need it. He knows this.

Well, we've made an agreement about it now. Tomorow is payday and my payslip turned up yesterday. I was going through the whole thing again earlier today. Working out how much I should lower the childsupport to make it fair. But we aren't going to do it every month anymore. Thank god. It's not the money, it's the dealing with it every 30 days. I don't want to. I am a black and white type of person.


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