Moving to Finland with EU long-term residence permit

How to? Read other's experiences. Find useful advice on shipping, immigration, residence permits, visas and more.
Post Reply
Samael
Posts: 10
Joined: Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:32 pm

Moving to Finland with EU long-term residence permit

Post by Samael » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:57 pm

Hello,

I have an EU long-term residence permit issued in Germany. According to this information:
As a matter of principle, an EU long-term residence permit issued in Germany entitles you to work, study or undergo training in other EU Member States. Some EU Member States do however carry out an assessment of the labour market before allowing you to work.
How about Finland? Does Finland perform the labour market assessment in this case? Am I permitted to work in Finland without having a local residence/work permit?

Thanks in advance for your help.



Moving to Finland with EU long-term residence permit

Sponsor:

Finland Forum Ad-O-Matic
 

tavastia
Posts: 527
Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:54 pm

Re: Moving to Finland with EU long-term residence permit

Post by tavastia » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:33 pm

I don't think Finland allows you to work if you have this permit from Germany.

https://migri.fi/en/right-to-work
Unrestricted right to work
You have an unrestricted right to work if you have a valid

permanent residence permit (Aliens Act, section 78(3)(1));
continuous residence permit on grounds other than employment or self-employment (Aliens Act, section 78(3)(1), such as
asylum or a residence permit on the basis of subsidiary protection
a residence permit on compassionate grounds
a residence permit on the basis of remigration
a long-term resident’s EU residence permit issued to a third-country national by the State of Finland;
And also it says with EU residence permit you can only work in Finland:

https://migri.fi/en/eu-residence-permit
After you get an EU residence permit, you have an unrestricted right to work. Please notice that your right to work is limited to Finland. As a holder of an EU residence permit, you may only work in the EU Member State that has granted the permit to you.

betelgeuse
Posts: 4353
Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:24 am

Re: Moving to Finland with EU long-term residence permit

Post by betelgeuse » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:04 pm

Samael wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:57 pm
I have an EU long-term residence permit issued in Germany. According to this information:
As a matter of principle, an EU long-term residence permit issued in Germany entitles you to work, study or undergo training in other EU Member States. Some EU Member States do however carry out an assessment of the labour market before allowing you to work.
How about Finland? Does Finland perform the labour market assessment in this case? Am I permitted to work in Finland without having a local residence/work permit?
"In practice, this means that those who have been issued with a long-term resident’s EC residence permit by another Member State are subject to the same residence permit regulations and requirements for issuing a residence permit as any other third-country nationals. Having a long-term resident’s EC residence permit issued by another Member State does not qualify a third-country national for employment in Finland, with the exception of the circumstances specified in Section 79 of the Finnish Aliens Act that apply to all third- country nationals. Persons holding a long-term resident’s EC residence permit therefore do not enjoy a more favourable status with regard to employment than any other third-country nationals. Depending on the case, labour market assessment is applied.
Finland does not apply annual quotas."

https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/sites ... r_diss.pdf

betelgeuse
Posts: 4353
Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:24 am

Re: Moving to Finland with EU long-term residence permit

Post by betelgeuse » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:18 pm

You will benefit from reading this earlier thread on the topic.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=99431

While the conversion based on work can require a labor market assessment, assuming you have sufficient funds (EU law term), you can get around it by using the "other purposes" category of the directive.

Samael
Posts: 10
Joined: Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:32 pm

Re: Moving to Finland with EU long-term residence permit

Post by Samael » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:17 pm

Thanks. It is clear that in my particular case it would be much easier and safer to apply for a Finnish residence permit. I understand, this is a question for migri but let me ask here as well. From processing perspective, what is easier (what takes less time or what has not so strict requirements or perhaps any other advantages) - to apply for a Finnish residence permit with an EU Blue Card or with an EU long-term residence permit? Both documents are issued in Germany.

FinlandGirl
Posts: 1328
Joined: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:43 am

Re: Moving to Finland with EU long-term residence permit

Post by FinlandGirl » Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:32 pm

Samael wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:39 pm
I'm 15 years experienced software developer (C++), not an EU-citizen (living in Germany). I'm wondering which salary should I expect in Helsinki/ Espoo? Does 5000-5500€ sound right?
Samael wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:17 pm
It is clear that in my particular case it would be much easier and safer to apply for a Finnish residence permit. I understand, this is a question for migri but let me ask here as well. From processing perspective, what is easier (what takes less time or what has not so strict requirements or perhaps any other advantages) - to apply for a Finnish residence permit with an EU Blue Card or with an EU long-term residence permit? Both documents are issued in Germany.
Easiest would be to apply for a Finnish residence permit as a specialist, it skips the labour market assessment and you can start working immediately in the job without having to wait for the decision:
https://migri.fi/en/specialist/en
None of the EU permits is required for that.

Your status in Germany might allow you to move back to Germany if you lose your job.
A Finnish residence permit based on work cannot be extended on the basis of work and might get cancelled if you lose your job and don't find a new one.


Post Reply