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Ural
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Tax exempt

Post by Ural » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:46 am

Hello,
I will hopefully move to Finland soon and I saw in Info Finland website that I can bring my car and personal belongings 'tax free'. I read about the rules too from tulli and vero. I will bring a car there and I'm considering to sell it after 1 year(after that mandatory year of 'not able to sell') and as I saw from nettiauto, theres a possibility of making profit from that too. But what troubles me is should I go for pickups for 5 people or awd suv? I mean, how popular or unpopular/expensive pickups are in meaning of yearly taxes and ownership?

Thanks



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Re: Tax exempt

Post by FinnGuyHelsinki » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:40 am

Pick-up trucks are almost exlusively bought as work vehicles, by businesses and individuals that need to haul stuff around, almost no-one gets those as a primary family car, even if it would seat five people. SUVs are more common, naturally there's great variety in models and price. I'd suggest to bring a car that is suitable for you and for people in general, the more exclusive and expensive it is, the harder time you will have in selling it later.


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Re: Tax exempt

Post by betelgeuse » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:28 am

Ural wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:46 am
I will hopefully move to Finland soon and I saw in Info Finland website that I can bring my car and personal belongings 'tax free'.
"A number of amendments to the Car Tax Act entered into force on 1 January 2015. The tax reductions for motor vehicles imported to Finland as removal goods were abolished."

https://www.vero.fi/en/individuals/tax- ... val-goods/


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Re: Tax exempt

Post by Upphew » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:35 am

Ural wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:46 am
Hello,
I will hopefully move to Finland soon and I saw in Info Finland website that I can bring my car and personal belongings 'tax free'. I read about the rules too from tulli and vero. I will bring a car there and I'm considering to sell it after 1 year(after that mandatory year of 'not able to sell') and as I saw from nettiauto, theres a possibility of making profit from that too. But what troubles me is should I go for pickups for 5 people or awd suv? I mean, how popular or unpopular/expensive pickups are in meaning of yearly taxes and ownership?

Thanks
You have read old information? "A number of amendments to the Car Tax Act entered into force on 1 January 2015. The tax reductions for motor vehicles imported to Finland as removal goods were abolished." https://www.vero.fi/en/individuals/tax- ... val-goods/

It might still be profitable to bring car with you as there are a lot of car dealerships that bring cars from abroad to sell here.
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Re: Tax exempt

Post by rinso » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:08 pm

that I can bring my car and personal belongings 'tax free'

If you import a car tax free you can run into trouble when you try to sell it in Finland. (pay the import tax)
But I don't know how it is with the new car tax act.


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Re: Tax exempt

Post by Ural » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:20 pm

https://tulli.fi/en/private-persons/mov ... eu-country

This is what they say in Tulli. So as I've read, I can bring a car there which I've used for at least 6 months in here and it would be tax exempt(if I wouldn't sell it there for the upcoming 12 months after moving).

https://www.infofinland.fi/en/moving-to ... to-finland

But in here something bothers me, do I have to pay autovero(car tax as I've understood)? Or more like, how many taxes in a car you have and which ones I'll be exempt from? In any way, if we'd talk spesifically about a car; Kia Sportage 1.6 T-Gdi awd 2016 model is 37000e in there(nettiauto) in used market and in here its less than 20000e. So there's a good amount of profit looking that way. Not even talking about pickups even; brand new Mercedes X class is 30000e here and in there is more than 50000e.


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Re: Tax exempt

Post by FinnGuyHelsinki » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:26 am

Car taxation is handled by Vero (not tulli) https://www.vero.fi/en/individuals/vehicles/car_tax/

Car tax excemption is for temporary use of a non-Finnish registered car, does not apply to you if you're moving in, importing a car, using it for a longer period and/or selling it. https://www.vero.fi/en/individuals/vehi ... xempt_use/


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Re: Tax exempt

Post by Ural » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:16 am

FinnGuyHelsinki wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:26 am
Car taxation is handled by Vero (not tulli) https://www.vero.fi/en/individuals/vehicles/car_tax/

Car tax excemption is for temporary use of a non-Finnish registered car, does not apply to you if you're moving in, importing a car, using it for a longer period and/or selling it. https://www.vero.fi/en/individuals/vehi ... xempt_use/
Thank you but my situation is not what you linked and as I have said in first post, I checked vero too. Here what it says in their website;

"For motor vehicles imported from outside the EU, the Finnish Customs will also issue a separate decision in which it approves the exemption of the vehicle from customs duties and VAT."

Emphasis on Non Eu

https://www.vero.fi/en/individuals/tax- ... val-goods/


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Re: Tax exempt

Post by Upphew » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:19 am

Ural wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:20 pm
https://tulli.fi/en/private-persons/mov ... eu-country

This is what they say in Tulli. So as I've read, I can bring a car there which I've used for at least 6 months in here and it would be tax exempt(if I wouldn't sell it there for the upcoming 12 months after moving).
Did you read this also? https://tulli.fi/en/private-persons/mov ... oval-goods
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Re: Tax exempt

Post by Ural » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:55 am

Upphew wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:19 am
Ural wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:20 pm
https://tulli.fi/en/private-persons/mov ... eu-country

This is what they say in Tulli. So as I've read, I can bring a car there which I've used for at least 6 months in here and it would be tax exempt(if I wouldn't sell it there for the upcoming 12 months after moving).
Did you read this also? https://tulli.fi/en/private-persons/mov ... oval-goods
Yes I did, is there anything you want me to check there specifically? My situation is outside EU customs and fiscal territory, and also resident outside EU at least 12 months. I saw in vero that exemption is 13450e tops. So pickups for 5 people would have to pay the extra; considering the autovero brand new ones pay, I'd have to pay around 9000e still(they have around 22000 of taxes).

Would appreciate any input.


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Re: Tax exempt

Post by Upphew » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:34 am

Ural wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:55 am
Upphew wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:19 am
Ural wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:20 pm
https://tulli.fi/en/private-persons/mov ... eu-country

This is what they say in Tulli. So as I've read, I can bring a car there which I've used for at least 6 months in here and it would be tax exempt(if I wouldn't sell it there for the upcoming 12 months after moving).
Did you read this also? https://tulli.fi/en/private-persons/mov ... oval-goods
Yes I did, is there anything you want me to check there specifically? My situation is outside EU customs and fiscal territory, and also resident outside EU at least 12 months. I saw in vero that exemption is 13450e tops. So pickups for 5 people would have to pay the extra; considering the autovero brand new ones pay, I'd have to pay around 9000e still(they have around 22000 of taxes).

Would appreciate any input.
From the tulli's link:
"If the requirements on removal goods are met, Customs confirms exemption from customs duty and value added tax for vehicles brought from outside the EU customs and tax territory with a customs clearance decision in connection with import. "
and then the excemption: "An individual who has moved to Finland by 31 December 2017 is eligible for the tax reduction if the motor vehicle taxed as a vehicle imported to Finland as removal goods is registered for the use of the individual in question or if a binding agreement on the purchase of the vehicle has been made by 31 December 2014."
If you meet that criteria then you get exempted from the tax.
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Re: Tax exempt

Post by Ural » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:46 pm

Upphew wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:34 am
Ural wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:55 am
Upphew wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:19 am

Did you read this also? https://tulli.fi/en/private-persons/mov ... oval-goods
Yes I did, is there anything you want me to check there specifically? My situation is outside EU customs and fiscal territory, and also resident outside EU at least 12 months. I saw in vero that exemption is 13450e tops. So pickups for 5 people would have to pay the extra; considering the autovero brand new ones pay, I'd have to pay around 9000e still(they have around 22000 of taxes).

Would appreciate any input.
From the tulli's link:
"If the requirements on removal goods are met, Customs confirms exemption from customs duty and value added tax for vehicles brought from outside the EU customs and tax territory with a customs clearance decision in connection with import. "
and then the excemption: "An individual who has moved to Finland by 31 December 2017 is eligible for the tax reduction if the motor vehicle taxed as a vehicle imported to Finland as removal goods is registered for the use of the individual in question or if a binding agreement on the purchase of the vehicle has been made by 31 December 2014."
If you meet that criteria then you get exempted from the tax.
Maybe better to hire a professional since there are more questions I have in my mind


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