Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

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FinlandGirl
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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by FinlandGirl » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:24 am

darubillah wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:35 pm
I am working as a web developer in a software house, and in migri website its written that you can be able to work in middle or top position of a company, so i believe i am in the middle position of a company.
Read properly what migri says:
https://migri.fi/en/intimate-relationship
Migri wrote: in the top or middle management of a company or in a specialist position requiring special skills
A web developer is not a manager.
darubillah wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:45 am
FinlandGirl wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:07 pm
darubillah wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:35 pm


I am working as a web developer in a software house,
What is your current RP and why can't you extend that one?
Right now my application for asylum is in process for past three years, i have reappealed for once. so still waiting for court decision.

so that why i want to apply for RP on some other grounds.
If you would be allowed to work in your current job with the other grounds residence permit, then you should also qualify for the residence permit as specialist. With 1 month processing time this is the fastest residence permit:
https://migri.fi/en/specialist/en

As said, it is impossible to predict how actual processing times will be right now.



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Sharkbait4
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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by Sharkbait4 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:34 pm

aambuchholz wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:14 pm
This forum has been very helpful - thank you to all that have posted!

Hoping someone can help with a related question - for the income requirement, does your partner have to prove the funds for a sustained period of time? Or just prove they meet in the income requirement on the most recent bank statement?

Thanks!
Hi. Per MIGRI:

“Income requirement

You have secure means of support.

You cannot secure your means of support with benefits paid by the society, or with the income and savings of your partner who lives in Finland. The income of your partner who lives in Finland is not taken into account because under Finnish law, he or she is not considered to be your family member.

The funds you need to have to meet the income requirement (EUR 1,000 per month for one adult) must be freely available to you, for example in your personal bank account.”

As for my case, I included my official bank statement with 20,000€ savings at the time, plus copies of assets/properties that I own (not mortgaged, fully paid). They asked these documents again from my partner when they sent her questions regarding our relationship.

The Residence Permit on Other Grounds is usually for 12 months (mine was) so yes, it needs to be for at least that length of time.

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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by Sharkbait4 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:46 pm

Nakki wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:02 pm
Hi everyone!

It is nice to share an experience here. It seems this is the only place I found related to this topic
.
I have also applied for https://migri.fi/en/intimate-relationship visa in the middle of March, within one week I received mail with 10 questions. I sent in the midnight and the next morning received requests for extra attachments. It seems in my case is super fast, maybe because I am here in Finland.

According to the below messages I was expecting questing to come in at least in 2-3 month but I have received them in one week.
Anyway, I will keep updated here. Good luck everyone who is waiting and stay safe!
Yes, it is fast once you’re here already. My Residence Permit based on Family Ties was granted after 24 hours-ish (calculating business/working days, not the weekend). I applied Friday morning (January 31st) and got the positive decision Monday morning (February 3rd) of this year. The inspector actually told us that if she can’t give the decision by Friday afternoon, then the latest would be Monday. :)

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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by Sharkbait4 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:56 pm

darubillah wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:39 am
Nakki wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:02 pm
Hi everyone!

It is nice to share an experience here. It seems this is the only place I found related to this topic
.
I have also applied for https://migri.fi/en/intimate-relationship visa in the middle of March, within one week I received mail with 10 questions. I sent in the midnight and the next morning received requests for extra attachments. It seems in my case is super fast, maybe because I am here in Finland.

According to the below messages I was expecting questing to come in at least in 2-3 month but I have received them in one week.
Anyway, I will keep updated here. Good luck everyone who is waiting and stay safe!
Hey Nakki,

I am also looking forward to apply on this basis, I want to know about income do we have to show reserved funds?
I am already in finland and working so i and my partner both have a job and having been living together for 3 years.

So about income what documents did you give?
If you’re already in Finland (and working), why do you need Other Grounds RP? It’s temporary. You don’t have a Residence permit for an employed person (TTOL)?

If your partner already has an RP, you can apply for Family Ties:

“Residence permit application based on family ties when your spouse has a residence permit in Finland

Apply with this application for a residence permit if your spouse has a residence permit in Finland. Your husband or wife, your registered same-sex partner or your cohabiting partner who you have lived with for at least two years in a marriage-like relationship or with whom you have joint custody of a child is considered a spouse.”

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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by darubillah » Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:42 pm

Sharkbait4 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:56 pm
darubillah wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:39 am
Nakki wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:02 pm
Hi everyone!

It is nice to share an experience here. It seems this is the only place I found related to this topic
.
I have also applied for https://migri.fi/en/intimate-relationship visa in the middle of March, within one week I received mail with 10 questions. I sent in the midnight and the next morning received requests for extra attachments. It seems in my case is super fast, maybe because I am here in Finland.

According to the below messages I was expecting questing to come in at least in 2-3 month but I have received them in one week.
Anyway, I will keep updated here. Good luck everyone who is waiting and stay safe!
Hey Nakki,

I am also looking forward to apply on this basis, I want to know about income do we have to show reserved funds?
I am already in finland and working so i and my partner both have a job and having been living together for 3 years.

So about income what documents did you give?
If you’re already in Finland (and working), why do you need Other Grounds RP? It’s temporary. You don’t have a Residence permit for an employed person (TTOL)?

If your partner already has an RP, you can apply for Family Ties:

“Residence permit application based on family ties when your spouse has a residence permit in Finland

Apply with this application for a residence permit if your spouse has a residence permit in Finland. Your husband or wife, your registered same-sex partner or your cohabiting partner who you have lived with for at least two years in a marriage-like relationship or with whom you have joint custody of a child is considered a spouse.”
No i dont have RP, my asylum case is in process so i am allowed to work.

Regarding family ties do you have any idea how much time it would take?

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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by Sharkbait4 » Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:07 pm

darubillah wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:42 pm
Sharkbait4 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:56 pm
darubillah wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:39 am


Hey Nakki,

I am also looking forward to apply on this basis, I want to know about income do we have to show reserved funds?
I am already in finland and working so i and my partner both have a job and having been living together for 3 years.

So about income what documents did you give?
If you’re already in Finland (and working), why do you need Other Grounds RP? It’s temporary. You don’t have a Residence permit for an employed person (TTOL)?

If your partner already has an RP, you can apply for Family Ties:

“Residence permit application based on family ties when your spouse has a residence permit in Finland

Apply with this application for a residence permit if your spouse has a residence permit in Finland. Your husband or wife, your registered same-sex partner or your cohabiting partner who you have lived with for at least two years in a marriage-like relationship or with whom you have joint custody of a child is considered a spouse.”
No i dont have RP, my asylum case is in process so i am allowed to work.

Regarding family ties do you have any idea how much time it would take?
It really depends on how long is the investigation, interviews, income requirements (if applicable), among other things. Some 5 - 9 months, sometimes it’s quicker than expected. It really depends. Mine took less than 24 hours (counting business days only). I think this is because I am already in Finland and I have an existing RP on Other Grounds.

darubillah
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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by darubillah » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:04 pm

Sharkbait4 wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:07 pm
darubillah wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:42 pm

No i dont have RP, my asylum case is in process so i am allowed to work.

Regarding family ties do you have any idea how much time it would take?
It really depends on how long is the investigation, interviews, income requirements (if applicable), among other things. Some 5 - 9 months, sometimes it’s quicker than expected. It really depends. Mine took less than 24 hours (counting business days only). I think this is because I am already in Finland and I have an existing RP on Other Grounds.
yeah i guess so thats why you got it so soon, I am looking into to apply on family ties, Can you please tell me from where i can get this (extract from a register of occupants) document? I do have a rent agreement but only my GF's name is mentioned on it, i registered on apartment later on.

also is there any lawyer who you can refer who is expert in it as my case is bit complicated.

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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by Sharkbait4 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:11 pm

darubillah wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:04 pm
Sharkbait4 wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:07 pm
darubillah wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:42 pm

No i dont have RP, my asylum case is in process so i am allowed to work.

Regarding family ties do you have any idea how much time it would take?
It really depends on how long is the investigation, interviews, income requirements (if applicable), among other things. Some 5 - 9 months, sometimes it’s quicker than expected. It really depends. Mine took less than 24 hours (counting business days only). I think this is because I am already in Finland and I have an existing RP on Other Grounds.
yeah i guess so thats why you got it so soon, I am looking into to apply on family ties, Can you please tell me from where i can get this (extract from a register of occupants) document? I do have a rent agreement but only my GF's name is mentioned on it, i registered on apartment later on.

also is there any lawyer who you can refer who is expert in it as my case is bit complicated.
Talonkirjaote? Hmm. I believe the authorities obtain residence details from the population information system, and they do have a centralized one so you just need an extract from the population system (Maistraatti).

If you really need it, I think it is provided by the maintenance company. If, for any reason, they don’t have one, then you can ask from the property manager's office. If you have made a move notification to the housing association, then this won’t be a problem. PLEASE ask other people about this, not 100% sure about this.

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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by jarikaija » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:10 pm

Sharkbait4 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:11 pm
PLEASE ask other people about this, not 100% sure about this.
All information on MAISTRAATTI! is available electronically for MIGRI. IF applicant registered
to finnish population system.

MIGRI HAVE TO (this is on the law) try to get needed information from maistraatti by themself on first hand!

I had case about this thing with migri and they had to step back... (about my previous marriage and kids)

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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by Sharkbait4 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:35 pm

jarikaija wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:10 pm
Sharkbait4 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:11 pm
PLEASE ask other people about this, not 100% sure about this.
All information on MAISTRAATTI! is available electronically for MIGRI. IF applicant registered
to finnish population system.

MIGRI HAVE TO (this is on the law) try to get needed information from maistraatti by themself on first hand!

I had case about this thing with migri and they had to step back... (about my previous marriage and kids)
I know. I’ve been in the process with MIGRI, Maistraatti, Police, the Bank, etc. I’ve e-mailed and spoken to a lot of officials before applying for my other grounds RP and my Family Ties RP. I know the process and I know that everything are in detail on their websites. Plus you can’t compare one person’s experience from another. His situation is complicated that’s why I’m trying give him information one step at a time. What I meant with asking other people is about the maintenance company.

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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by FinlandGirl » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:45 pm

Sharkbait4 wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:35 pm
jarikaija wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:10 pm
Sharkbait4 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:11 pm
PLEASE ask other people about this, not 100% sure about this.
All information on MAISTRAATTI! is available electronically for MIGRI. IF applicant registered
to finnish population system.

MIGRI HAVE TO (this is on the law) try to get needed information from maistraatti by themself on first hand!

I had case about this thing with migri and they had to step back... (about my previous marriage and kids)
I know. I’ve been in the process with MIGRI, Maistraatti, Police, the Bank, etc. I’ve e-mailed and spoken to a lot of officials before applying for my other grounds RP and my Family Ties RP. I know the process and I know that everything are in detail on their websites. Plus you can’t compare one person’s experience from another. His situation is complicated that’s why I’m trying give him information one step at a time. What I meant with asking other people is about the maintenance company.
If it is easy to get from the landlord or maintenance company, or if he already has some documentation about that from when he moved, there is no harm attaching it.

If it is not attached and Migri actually needs it, they will ask for it.

What really matters is that the information in the Population System states that they have been living in the same apartment for the past 2 years.

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Re: Intimate Relationship RP (Share your experience)

Post by rickx1234 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:31 am

darubillah wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:04 pm
Sharkbait4 wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:07 pm
darubillah wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:42 pm

No i dont have RP, my asylum case is in process so i am allowed to work.

Regarding family ties do you have any idea how much time it would take?
It really depends on how long is the investigation, interviews, income requirements (if applicable), among other things. Some 5 - 9 months, sometimes it’s quicker than expected. It really depends. Mine took less than 24 hours (counting business days only). I think this is because I am already in Finland and I have an existing RP on Other Grounds.
yeah i guess so thats why you got it so soon, I am looking into to apply on family ties, Can you please tell me from where i can get this (extract from a register of occupants) document? I do have a rent agreement but only my GF's name is mentioned on it, i registered on apartment later on.

also is there any lawyer who you can refer who is expert in it as my case is bit complicated.
I had my application on the same ground 5 years ago and all they needed at that time were talonkirjaote which you can get from the property management company in charge of the current residential premises. At that time they also checked my bank account whether i managed to support myself financially without any public funding, that was about 1000€ per month, so that's 12000€ per year. Your gf's income should be disregarded as you and she are not from migri's perspective family members at this moment.


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