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sijazme
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legal status during 90 day visit

Post by sijazme » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:18 pm

I am in Finland on a resident permit issued by another schengen member state (Poland).

This allows me to enter Finland and stay here legally for 90 days.
I entered Finland on 01 July, 2019 and got married on 05 August, 2019 to an Icelandic citizen (Nordic).
My migri interview is on 27 August, 2019.

Now will my 90 day clock "stop" after I give the finger prints (i.e. I can stay longer in Finland while I wait for a decision)?

Or did the 90 day clock already stop when I submitted an application for an eu family member card?



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betelgeuse
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by betelgeuse » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:45 pm

sijazme wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:18 pm
I am in Finland on a resident permit issued by another schengen member state (Poland).

This allows me to enter Finland and stay here legally for 90 days.
I entered Finland on 01 July, 2019 and got married on 05 August, 2019 to an Icelandic citizen (Nordic).
My migri interview is on 27 August, 2019.

Now will my 90 day clock "stop" after I give the finger prints (i.e. I can stay longer in Finland while I wait for a decision)?

Or did the 90 day clock already stop when I submitted an application for an eu family member card?
It stopped when you married.

Bookcase
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by Bookcase » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:49 pm

Hello, why are you applying to migri in Finland?

I saw this on their website.

'You can only get a residence card when your family member, who is an EU citizen, also resides in Finland.'

Your family member resides in Iceland?

sijazme
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by sijazme » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:29 pm

Bookcase wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:49 pm
Your family member resides in Iceland?
My family member is an Icelandic citizen but resides in Finland for the past 25 years.

paintballsean
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by paintballsean » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:49 am

Congrats on finding a lucky person I hope my day comes for that.

quillcentaur
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by quillcentaur » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:26 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:45 pm
sijazme wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:18 pm
I am in Finland on a resident permit issued by another schengen member state (Poland).

This allows me to enter Finland and stay here legally for 90 days.
I entered Finland on 01 July, 2019 and got married on 05 August, 2019 to an Icelandic citizen (Nordic).
My migri interview is on 27 August, 2019.

Now will my 90 day clock "stop" after I give the finger prints (i.e. I can stay longer in Finland while I wait for a decision)?

Or did the 90 day clock already stop when I submitted an application for an eu family member card?
It stopped when you married.
I don't think this is correct? It stopped when she applied for rp. Marrying doesn't automatically give you extra benefits. :D

quillcentaur
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by quillcentaur » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:27 pm

sijazme wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:18 pm
I am in Finland on a resident permit issued by another schengen member state (Poland).

This allows me to enter Finland and stay here legally for 90 days.
I entered Finland on 01 July, 2019 and got married on 05 August, 2019 to an Icelandic citizen (Nordic).
My migri interview is on 27 August, 2019.

Now will my 90 day clock "stop" after I give the finger prints (i.e. I can stay longer in Finland while I wait for a decision)?

Or did the 90 day clock already stop when I submitted an application for an eu family member card?
Yes you're allowed to wait in finland for decision.

betelgeuse
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by betelgeuse » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:01 pm

quillcentaur wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:26 pm
I don't think this is correct? It stopped when she applied for rp. Marrying doesn't automatically give you extra benefits. :D
Marrying an ETA citizen does. Who are you talking about? No-one in this thread is applying for a residence permit.

quillcentaur
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by quillcentaur » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:36 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:01 pm
quillcentaur wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:26 pm
I don't think this is correct? It stopped when she applied for rp. Marrying doesn't automatically give you extra benefits. :D
Marrying an ETA citizen does. Who are you talking about? No-one in this thread is applying for a residence permit.
Thought they're applying for rp because they mentioned migri interview. Im probably wrong then.

sijazme
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by sijazme » Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:12 pm

quillcentaur wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:36 pm
Thought they're applying for rp because they mentioned migri interview. Im probably wrong then.
A permit is an explicit permission granted to a Non-EU citizen to live in Finland. A residence card is issued to members of EU Family. A resident permit is different from a residence card.

If your spouse is an EU citizen then you are deemed to have a natural right to live here and therefore you do not need an "explicit permit". It is more like registering as the spouse of the EU Citizen and applying for a "card" which costs only EUR 54 as opposed to a permit which costs more than 450 EUR in some cases. As a family member of the EU citizen, you are only exercising your right to be with your family (or your eu spouse is exercising her right to sponsor you).

Two very different situations.

quillcentaur
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by quillcentaur » Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:21 pm

That's enlightening. thanks!

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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by quillcentaur » Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:21 pm

That's enlightening. thanks!

SampleUser1234
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by SampleUser1234 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:12 pm

When you leave your rp application, they will give you a document stating you are allowed to stay in Finland for the duration of the process. However it is not usable for travelling, so if you exit Finland, it won't be applicable to re-enter.

betelgeuse
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Re: legal status during 90 day visit

Post by betelgeuse » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:11 pm

SampleUser1234 wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:12 pm
When you leave your rp application, they will give you a document stating you are allowed to stay in Finland for the duration of the process. However it is not usable for travelling, so if you exit Finland, it won't be applicable to re-enter.
Last time I saw one it said it was not a travel document. Travel documents are, for example, passports. Not being a travel document doesn’t mean that there wouldn’t be relevance for travel.


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