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fintel
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PR -- Family ties to EU citizen

Post by fintel » Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:01 pm

This question is on behalf of my friend.

He is married to an EU citizen, his wife who is from Denmark and she has lived in Finland for over 20 years. They got married in 2019 and have been living in Finland since then. He is a holder of a residence card issued by Finland under EU family law Directive 2004/38/EC. He will qualify for permanent residency in year 2024. However, due to the nature of his work, he is often traveling outside of Finland, mostly to Asia.

How will this effect his permanent residence application in a few years? Is migri going to question his extended periods of leave from Finland or is it sufficient that he maintains a permanent address in Finland with maistraatti and is officially registered to be living in Finland, Does migri check entry and exits into Finland and EU at the time of grant of Permanent Residency status, flight data, entries and exits into EU or Finland?

How can he make sure that he is eligible for PR in four years time without having to change jobs?

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Re: PR -- Family ties to EU citizen

Post by FinlandGirl » Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:44 pm

fintel wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:01 pm
How will this effect his permanent residence application in a few years? Is migri going to question his extended periods of leave from Finland or is it sufficient that he maintains a permanent address in Finland with maistraatti and is officially registered to be living in Finland,
It also requires spending the majority of his time in Finland.
Not telling Vero about income/gifts/inheritance/... received (or gifts given) anywhere in the world would be a crime.
fintel wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:01 pm
Does migri check entry and exits into Finland and EU at the time of grant of Permanent Residency status, flight data, entries and exits into EU or Finland?
They can even check later, false statements in the application are a reason for cancelling permanent permits.

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Re: PR -- Family ties to EU citizen

Post by betelgeuse » Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:12 am

I first wrote here about permanent residence permits but then noticed this was about EU rules.

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Re: PR -- Family ties to EU citizen

Post by betelgeuse » Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:17 am

From section 161g of the Aliens Act:

"Continuity of residence is not affected by temporary absences not exceeding six months a year, or longer absences to undertake compulsory military service, or one absence of a maximum of twelve consecutive months for important reasons such as pregnancy or childbirth, serious illness, study or vocational training, or a posting in another EU Member State or a third country."

https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/kaannokse ... 101152.pdf

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Re: PR -- Family ties to EU citizen

Post by Maaria » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:09 am

betelgeuse wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:17 am
From section 161g of the Aliens Act:

"Continuity of residence is not affected by temporary absences not exceeding six months a year, or longer absences to undertake compulsory military service, or one absence of a maximum of twelve consecutive months for important reasons such as pregnancy or childbirth, serious illness, study or vocational training, or a posting in another EU Member State or a third country."

https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/kaannokse ... 101152.pdf
So continuous residence requirement is different for PR card under EU law and for Finnish citizenship application?

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Re: PR -- Family ties to EU citizen

Post by betelgeuse » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:58 am

Maaria wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:09 am
So continuous residence requirement is different for PR card under EU law and for Finnish citizenship application?
Yes

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Re: PR -- Family ties to EU citizen

Post by fintel » Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:21 pm

FinlandGirl wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:44 pm
Not telling Vero about income/gifts/inheritance/... received (or gifts given) anywhere in the world would be a crime.
He owns a bicycle in Thailand, should he tell vero about it?
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Re: PR -- Family ties to EU citizen

Post by FinlandGirl » Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:32 pm

fintel wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:21 pm
FinlandGirl wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:44 pm
Not telling Vero about income/gifts/inheritance/... received (or gifts given) anywhere in the world would be a crime.
He owns a bicycle in Thailand, should he tell vero about it?
Owning a bicycle does not incur taxes.
If his parents give him a 5000 Euro bicycle as a gift he has to pay gift tax to Vero.

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Re: PR -- Family ties to EU citizen

Post by fintel » Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:58 pm

FinlandGirl wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:32 pm
Owning a bicycle does not incur taxes.
If his parents give him a 5000 Euro bicycle as a gift he has to pay gift tax to Vero.
In my original question, I did not ask about taxes. Why do you think you should mention it?
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