Anyone come to Finland as a EU long-term resident?

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FinlandGirl
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Re: Anyone come to Finland as a EU long-term resident?

Post by FinlandGirl » Sat May 09, 2020 8:58 am

diablogun wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 11:26 pm
Sweden's an option for sure, but they have a much higher rate of crime.
Random statistics are not a good basis for such a decision.
And whatever one can criticize about Sweden, it is not a place with an enormous crime rate.

Have you ever been to Finland?

Picking Finland over Sweden is an odd choice when you are looking for a Swedish-language life.



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diablogun
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Re: Anyone come to Finland as a EU long-term resident?

Post by diablogun » Sat May 09, 2020 9:28 am

rickx1234 wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 4:38 am
Maaria wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 1:52 am
diablogun wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 11:26 pm
Sweden's an option for sure, but they have a much higher rate of crime. I think they treat the residency about the same, so it just comes to preference at that point.
I don't know much about the crime rate in Sweden, But from the Swedish migration website it seems that you can just transfer your current long term status from Hungary to Sweden. Here is the link:
https://www.migrationsverket.se/English ... dents.html

Have you seen this before?
It seems much easier in Sweden, pensioners are also eligible, that is written on the website.
https://www.migrationsverket.se/English ... ments.html

From migri.fi https://migri.fi/en/eu-residence-permit:
''An EU residence permit is valid until further notice. In other words, its period of validity is not limited. If you have an EU residence permit granted by a Schengen country, you may stay in another Schengen country for a maximum of 90 days. If your stay will be longer than 90 days, you must apply for a national residence permit in that country.''

The provisions for granting a Finnish residence permit are not as wide as in Sweden, at least a pensioner doesn't fall into any categories for residency in Finland, unless you have work, family tie or aim at opening a business here in Finland.

https://migri.fi/en/coming-to-finland-on-other-grounds
A temporary residency (Permit B) maybe granted to you, not all B holders are entitled to public medical coverage provided by Finland. I was on a B as I arrived at Finland some years ago. But is that what you are looking for?

Perhaps you may consider moving to Sweden until you get the Swedish citizenship. As a Nordic passport Union member holding a Swedish, Danish, Norwegian or Icelandic passport, you then no longer have to apply for residency through Finnish immigration. You can simply register at Digi ja väestötietovirasto and live as long as you wish. But then again, medicals are still at your own expense.
I went a step further and talked to the specific folks at migrationsverket in Sweden. My friend is a lawyer there 😀

diablogun
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Re: Anyone come to Finland as a EU long-term resident?

Post by diablogun » Sat May 09, 2020 9:31 am

rickx1234 wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 4:38 am
Maaria wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 1:52 am
diablogun wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 11:26 pm
Sweden's an option for sure, but they have a much higher rate of crime. I think they treat the residency about the same, so it just comes to preference at that point.
I don't know much about the crime rate in Sweden, But from the Swedish migration website it seems that you can just transfer your current long term status from Hungary to Sweden. Here is the link:
https://www.migrationsverket.se/English ... dents.html

Have you seen this before?
It seems much easier in Sweden, pensioners are also eligible, that is written on the website.
https://www.migrationsverket.se/English ... ments.html

From migri.fi https://migri.fi/en/eu-residence-permit:
''An EU residence permit is valid until further notice. In other words, its period of validity is not limited. If you have an EU residence permit granted by a Schengen country, you may stay in another Schengen country for a maximum of 90 days. If your stay will be longer than 90 days, you must apply for a national residence permit in that country.''

The provisions for granting a Finnish residence permit are not as wide as in Sweden, at least a pensioner doesn't fall into any categories for residency in Finland, unless you have work, family tie or aim at opening a business here in Finland.

https://migri.fi/en/coming-to-finland-on-other-grounds
A temporary residency (Permit B) maybe granted to you, not all B holders are entitled to public medical coverage provided by Finland. I was on a B as I arrived at Finland some years ago. But is that what you are looking for?

Perhaps you may consider moving to Sweden until you get the Swedish citizenship. As a Nordic passport Union member holding a Swedish, Danish, Norwegian or Icelandic passport, you then no longer have to apply for residency through Finnish immigration. You can simply register at Digi ja väestötietovirasto and live as long as you wish. But then again, medicals are still at your own expense.
Solid advice, particularly if medical coverage is missing from an a resident permit.

diablogun
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Re: Anyone come to Finland as a EU long-term resident?

Post by diablogun » Sat May 09, 2020 9:36 am

FinlandGirl wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 8:58 am
diablogun wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 11:26 pm
Sweden's an option for sure, but they have a much higher rate of crime.
Random statistics are not a good basis for such a decision.
And whatever one can criticize about Sweden, it is not a place with an enormous crime rate.

Have you ever been to Finland?

Picking Finland over Sweden is an odd choice when you are looking for a Swedish-language life.
Nothing odd about it. One of the best education systems in the world, low crime, pretty nature and quiet people like myself Sweden is great too, but crime is an issue, and it's not from statistics I'm bringing it up. I've lived there and visited many times since.

Yes ive been to finland, but would spend several more weeks searching for the right place if needed.

betelgeuse
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Re: Anyone come to Finland as a EU long-term resident?

Post by betelgeuse » Sat May 09, 2020 9:55 am

rickx1234 wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 4:38 am
https://migri.fi/en/coming-to-finland-on-other-grounds
A temporary residency (Permit B) maybe granted to you, not all B holders are entitled to public medical coverage provided by Finland. I was on a B as I arrived at Finland some years ago. But is that what you are looking for?
This page is not applicable here. It's the national law other grounds permit which is different (I wonder how many times this information needs to be repeated to this thread).

There's no medical insurance required in the Aliens Act for permits based on EU long term residency.

diablogun
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Re: Anyone come to Finland as a EU long-term resident?

Post by diablogun » Sat May 09, 2020 10:00 am

betelgeuse wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:55 am
rickx1234 wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 4:38 am
https://migri.fi/en/coming-to-finland-on-other-grounds
A temporary residency (Permit B) maybe granted to you, not all B holders are entitled to public medical coverage provided by Finland. I was on a B as I arrived at Finland some years ago. But is that what you are looking for?
This page is not applicable here. It's the national law other grounds permit which is different (I wonder how many times this information needs to be repeated to this thread).

There's no medical insurance required in the Aliens Act for permits based on EU long term residency.
Very good to hear it again. I'm very appreciative of the intelligence and diligence of you folks - figuring this out hasn't been easy. And your English is phenomenal.

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Re: Anyone come to Finland as a EU long-term resident?

Post by fintel » Sat May 09, 2020 3:04 pm

diablogun wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:36 am
Sweden is great too, but crime is an issue
I thought Sweden was pretty safe until I entered Malmo.
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