Finnish UAS in international rankings?

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ankkaankka
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Finnish UAS in international rankings?

Post by ankkaankka » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:43 am

Hi everyone,

I have a question I couldn't figure out yet. Finnish universities fare relatively well in international rankings - but I haven't found a single Finnish University of Applied Sciences (UAS) in an international ranking. Why is that?

- QS, Times and Shanghai don't rank any Finnish UAS: https://www.study.eu/best-universities/finland
- US News doesn't rank any UAS: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-g ... ect=&name=
- CWTS Leiden doesn't rank any UAS: http://www.leidenranking.com/ranking/2019/list

Now, those rankings tend to look a lot at research output and citations, and I know that isn't the focus of most of the Finnish polytechnics. But given the overall quality of the Finnish higher education system, it feels odd that not a single UAS would make it into the world's top 1,250 institutions (Times ranks 1,258!) in at least one of those big five rankings!

Is this really a reflection of the UAS' performance against the ranking metrics, or is there another reason behind it? E.g. a concerted effort of the UAS requesting to be removed from international rankings?

Interested to hear to opinions!



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Re: Finnish UAS in international rankings?

Post by Upphew » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:01 pm

ankkaankka wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:43 am
Hi everyone,

I have a question I couldn't figure out yet. Finnish universities fare relatively well in international rankings - but I haven't found a single Finnish University of Applied Sciences (UAS) in an international ranking. Why is that?

- QS, Times and Shanghai don't rank any Finnish UAS: https://www.study.eu/best-universities/finland
- US News doesn't rank any UAS: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-g ... ect=&name=
- CWTS Leiden doesn't rank any UAS: http://www.leidenranking.com/ranking/2019/list

Now, those rankings tend to look a lot at research output and citations, and I know that isn't the focus of most of the Finnish polytechnics. But given the overall quality of the Finnish higher education system, it feels odd that not a single UAS would make it into the world's top 1,250 institutions (Times ranks 1,258!) in at least one of those big five rankings!

Is this really a reflection of the UAS' performance against the ranking metrics, or is there another reason behind it? E.g. a concerted effort of the UAS requesting to be removed from international rankings?

Interested to hear to opinions!
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Re: Finnish UAS in international rankings?

Post by inkku » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:26 pm

Overall presumed quality of the education sector is based on a system and wide accessibility to decent education (think about "the average"), not having peaks. As you said, rankings are based much on research performance, I doubt UAS carry out any meaningful research.


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