Finnish Citizenship application 2018

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albacore
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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by albacore » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:43 pm

It might make waiting easier if you know where Migri is spending their time...

During 1/2018 - 5/2018:
All decisions (Including citizenship, residence permit, ...)
In total 36,387

Citizenship
Positive: 4085
Negative: 879

Source:
http://tilastot.migri.fi/#decisions/233 ... &start=576


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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by agergis » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:24 pm

albacore wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:43 pm
It might make waiting easier if you know where Migri is spending their time...

During 1/2018 - 5/2018:
All decisions (Including citizenship, residence permit, ...)
In total 36,387

Citizenship
Positive: 4085
Negative: 879

Source:
http://tilastot.migri.fi/#decisions/233 ... &start=576
Hello,

After looking at the figures which you just shared, it actually looks like that there is a huge percentage of applicants that got rejected.

Does anyone what are the reasons for getting rejected? Is there some reasons that some applications for example get rejected if Migri just doesn't like the applicant?

Any experience?


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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by albacore » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:32 pm

Seems like (sadly) most rejections are from specific parts of the world:

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So if a country has war, its citizens are more likely to be rejected?!


agergis wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:24 pm
albacore wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:43 pm
It might make waiting easier if you know where Migri is spending their time...

During 1/2018 - 5/2018:
All decisions (Including citizenship, residence permit, ...)
In total 36,387

Citizenship
Positive: 4085
Negative: 879

Source:
http://tilastot.migri.fi/#decisions/233 ... &start=576
Hello,

After looking at the figures which you just shared, it actually looks like that there is a huge percentage of applicants that got rejected.

Does anyone what are the reasons for getting rejected? Is there some reasons that some applications for example get rejected if Migri just doesn't like the applicant?

Any experience?
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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by summercool » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:54 pm

Hi all,

My application has been in second stage for over a month, I made application on mid of February. I have not got any clarifications nor any request nor decisions. What does that mean? Does in progress means it is in queue or ?? Are here people having similar situations or experiences?

Thank you in advance.


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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by albacore » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:58 pm

A few posts above, someone got positive decision after 25 days in stage 2.

I'd send my latest payslip and travel details if I were you.

summercool wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:54 pm
Hi all,

My application has been in second stage for over a month, I made application on mid of February. I have not got any clarifications nor any request nor decisions. What does that mean? Does in progress means it is in queue or ?? Are here people having similar situations or experiences?

Thank you in advance.
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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by summercool » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:47 am

Hello guys,

Finally I am given a negative decision because I was out of Finland for over a year in last 4 years. I was rejected because my continuous residence permit interrupted as I was away from Finland over a year.

Now I am wondering about period of residence information that we can find in at: https://migri.fi/en/how-to-calculate-th ... -residence. Now I am thinking about new application when I have enough period of residence in Finland.

The information tells:

"The following periods of absence from Finland will not interrupt your continuous period of residence, and their time will be calculated as continuous residence time:

absences of a maximum of one month
a maximum of six periods of absence that last 1–2 months each
a maximum of two periods of absence that last 2–6 months each
The following period of absence from Finland will not interrupt your continuous period of residence but it will not be calculated as continuous residence time:

a period of absence that lasts longer than six months but one year at maximum"


Are these conditions for whole four years or for a year? Can you please share your opinion guys.

Thank you.


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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by albacore » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:55 am

Sad to hear that. I guess it's for the whole four years.

Did you have one long period of being away?

summercool wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:47 am
Hello guys,

Finally I am given a negative decision because I was out of Finland for over a year in last 4 years. I was rejected because my continuous residence permit interrupted as I was away from Finland over a year.

Now I am wondering about period of residence information that we can find in at: https://migri.fi/en/how-to-calculate-th ... -residence. Now I am thinking about new application when I have enough period of residence in Finland.

The information tells:

"The following periods of absence from Finland will not interrupt your continuous period of residence, and their time will be calculated as continuous residence time:

absences of a maximum of one month
a maximum of six periods of absence that last 1–2 months each
a maximum of two periods of absence that last 2–6 months each
The following period of absence from Finland will not interrupt your continuous period of residence but it will not be calculated as continuous residence time:

a period of absence that lasts longer than six months but one year at maximum"


Are these conditions for whole four years or for a year? Can you please share your opinion guys.

Thank you.
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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by summercool » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:09 am

Yes I was away for 13 months and due to that it was interrupted.

But excluding that also or after that, i have already been away for 2 periods of 3 months each. So, if I am away again for 3-4 months then does that matter or to be straight does it interrupt again?


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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by albacore » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:26 am

My understanding is you have already used this two times limit:
a maximum of two periods of absence that last 2–6 months each
But I think all in all, now you won't go by the 4 year rule any more, so your total duration of staying in Finland needs to be accumulated:
you have lived in Finland for a total of seven years after you turned 15 (accumulated period of residence), with the last two years without interruption.
https://migri.fi/en/period-of-residence

And they won't count your time on B permit in that 7 years I guess:
The time you have lived in Finland with a temporary residence permit (the B permit) cannot be included in your accumulated period of residence.

By the way have you seen this:
Your period of residence will not be interrupted if your absence is caused by a well-founded personal reason. The reason must be exceptional and unexpected, for example a sudden illness that begins abroad and prevents you from returning to Finland. Taking care of your ill parents or grandparents abroad or in your former home country has not usually been considered to be a well-founded personal reason.
Won't that apply to you?

If I were you, and I really needed the citizenship, I'd hire a lawyer to give me advice on this.


summercool wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:09 am
Yes I was away for 13 months and due to that it was interrupted.

But excluding that also or after that, i have already been away for 2 periods of 3 months each. So, if I am away again for 3-4 months then does that matter or to be straight does it interrupt again?
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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by summercool » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:48 am

Yes, thank you. lets see. I am still open with everything. I think in my case that 4 years thing will come earlier than accumulated period of residence.


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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by Josek » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:09 pm

summercool wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:09 am
Yes I was away for 13 months and due to that it was interrupted.

But excluding that also or after that, i have already been away for 2 periods of 3 months each. So, if I am away again for 3-4 months then does that matter or to be straight does it interrupt again?
How does Finland know when you are in another EU country? or do you proactively report it?


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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by albacore » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:27 pm

I went through all the posts in Finnish Citizenship Applications 2018 and summarized the waiting time:

User: sruwin's husband
Applied: 15.1.2018
Done: 18.7.2018
Duration 184 days
Note: one request to get more information

User: SunnyFin
Applied: Last week of Jan.
Second stage: Last Week of June
Done: July 5th
Duration: 180 days
Note: Request for holidays and latest payslips.

Erinn
Applied: Mid Feb
Second stage: 01/06
Done: June 26
Duration: 130 days
Note: 25 days on stage 2


Sunia
Applied: 1.2.2018
Done: 5.6.2018
Duration: 124 days
Note: Request on May 31st


Kapunev
Applied: 2.1.2018
Done: 15.5.2018
Duration: 133 days


Pipia
Applied: 9.1.2018
Done: 23.05.2018
Duration: 135 days

Biryvih
Applied: 3rd week of Nov 2017
Done: first week of April
Duration: 130 days

Supergames
Applied: first week of December 2017
Done: 13.04.2018
Duration: 130 days

Albacore's friend
Applied: second week of Feb
Done: not yet!
Duration 152 days and counting!
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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by sruwim » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:42 am

Hi
My husband got a positive decision yesterday after 6 months of applying.

6/27/2011 A customer number has been created for you. You can see your customer number at the top of the page.
1/15/2018 We have received the processing fee for your application.
1/15/2018 We have received your application and it is pending.
1/16/2018 You have proved your identity and a diary number has been created for your application. You can see the diary number at the top of the page. Your application has been placed in the processing queue. We will contact you if we need more information from you. Our processing times can be found on our website at www.migri.fi
7/13/2018 Your application is waiting for your reply to a request for supplementary information.
7/16/2018 You have replied to a request for supplementary information.
7/18/2018 A decision has been made on your application.
7/18/2018 The decision can be read on your user account.


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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by agergis » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:57 am

sruwim wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:42 am
Hi
My husband got a positive decision yesterday after 6 months of applying.

6/27/2011 A customer number has been created for you. You can see your customer number at the top of the page.
1/15/2018 We have received the processing fee for your application.
1/15/2018 We have received your application and it is pending.
1/16/2018 You have proved your identity and a diary number has been created for your application. You can see the diary number at the top of the page. Your application has been placed in the processing queue. We will contact you if we need more information from you. Our processing times can be found on our website at www.migri.fi
7/13/2018 Your application is waiting for your reply to a request for supplementary information.
7/16/2018 You have replied to a request for supplementary information.
7/18/2018 A decision has been made on your application.
7/18/2018 The decision can be read on your user account.
Congratulations!

May I ask what were the documents that they ask for ? Have you applied in Helsinki ?

What about the residence period, did ur husband have some B permit at the beginning ?


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Re: Finnish Citizenship application 2018

Post by usaman » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:17 am

Moi, I have been in Finland for 6 years but have been away from Finland for around 2 years for health reasons with short visits every few months, so can anybody help about what kind of documentation is needed to prove that I have been away from Finland because of health issues and what kind of health issues are considered solid enough? Thank you in advance!


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