Offers in finnish supermarkets

[Oombongo]

I usually buy my fish in discount, and didn't have problems so far. The counter dude or dudess needs to punch some keys to give you the discount. Sometimes they may forget about it. They are humans you know

Thanks ad for the linkie

[raamv]

I have determined that you are in fact a moron. Noticing that one has not got the expected discount a couple of time might be a comment on a particular store's behaviour and management practice, but is not a slight on Finnish culture. Why do you post constant stupid posts?

What have you really contributed here to call me by your name??
you didnt understand my post let alone read it properly...so idiots like you don't deserve discounts from anywhere..

[onkko]

I have determined that you are in fact a moron. Noticing that one has not got the expected discount a couple of time might be a comment on a particular store's behaviour and management practice, but is not a slight on Finnish culture. Why do you post constant stupid posts?

What have you really contributed here to call me by your name??
you didnt understand my post let alone read it properly...so idiots like you don't deserve discounts from anywhere..

Yes you obviously are moron, all morons from india comes here like wave of morons... Well i of course understand how someone knows better than indian moron who have lived here some time while he haves hurri sukunimi so that has to make him superior to tell how things are...
(boring fact, most if not almost all of indians in finland are engineers or similar or are their family members and thats quite accomplishment to do if you are moron.
Of course some engineer can marry moron but since i see finnish flag too im baffled.)

[raamv]

Yes you obviously are moron, all morons from india comes here like wave of morons... Well i of course understand how someone knows better than indian moron who have lived here some time while he haves hurri sukunimi so that has to make him superior to tell how things are...
(boring fact, most if not almost all of indians in finland are engineers or similar or are their family members and thats quite accomplishment to do if you are moron. Of course some engineer can marry moron but since i see finnish flag too im baffled.)

Fiins, Too curious on what others think about their thoughts that are not expressed!!
Since you are baffled by the coat of arms!! its better that you search google images and see if any match the different pics..
Easier to classify All Indians that come to Finland as Engineers... Easier to classify that many come directly from India ...
than to ask people not to whine when they feel cheated at the supermarket cos they cant read in Finnish or that the sale price could have expired..
Than to come here and complain here instead of asking for the correct price and then coming and complaining here..
cos no one could change that!!
I ve seen many a price error to start complaining...( In fact a few of them were off by €200 that I bought a €250 item for €50 and that too 2 of them ...)
Most foreigners dont want to do what Finns normally do: Silently compare prices and go where it is cheaper than complaining..
They tend to underestimate the Local population by portraying them as idiots who live the way the cards are dealt..instead of realizing that there is a whole world of knowledge to be gained from the Culture..

[onkko]

Yes you obviously are moron, all morons from india comes here like wave of morons... Well i of course understand how someone knows better than indian moron who have lived here some time while he haves hurri sukunimi so that has to make him superior to tell how things are...
(boring fact, most if not almost all of indians in finland are engineers or similar or are their family members and thats quite accomplishment to do if you are moron. Of course some engineer can marry moron but since i see finnish flag too im baffled.)

Fiins, Too curious on what others think about their thoughts that are not expressed!!
Since you are baffled by the coat of arms!! its better that you search google images and see if any match the different pics..
Easier to classify All Indians that come to Finland as Engineers... Easier to classify that many come directly from India ...
than to ask people not to whine when they feel cheated at the supermarket cos they cant read in Finnish or that the sale price could have expired..
Than to come here and complain here instead of asking for the correct price and then coming and complaining here..
cos no one could change that!!
I ve seen many a price error to start complaining...( In fact a few of them were off by €200 that I bought a €250 item for €50 and that too 2 of them ...)
Most foreigners dont want to do what Finns normally do: Silently compare prices and go where it is cheaper than complaining..
They tend to underestimate the Local population by portraying them as idiots who live the way the cards are dealt..instead of realizing that there is a whole world of knowledge to be gained from the Culture..

Maybe you should reread my text again (and notice that in here ... = well yeah in broad meaning what includes whole sentence)
Dont attack me when i attacked agains that swede because of i think i very highly about indiand, read what i wrote and point where i offended you. I didnt support that shops make mistakes, i have made those myself.
I rewrite that to you.

Of course you arent moron, hardly any morons come from india and atleast they do not come in waves. I cant understand how someone who happens to have hurri surname can claim that he knows how things are better than you while you have lived in here some time. (boring fact, most if not almost all of indians in finland are engineers or similar or are their family members and thats quite accomplishment to do if you are moron. Of course some engineer can marry moron but since i see finnish flag too im baffled. (meaning that atleast you didnt import moron and i doubt that you married one and i know you arent one))
Theres without...

[raamv]

Maybe you should reread my text again (and notice that in here ... = well yeah in broad meaning what includes whole sentence)
Dont attack me when i attacked agains that swede because of i think i very highly about indiand, read what i wrote and point where i offended you. I didnt support that shops make mistakes, i have made those myself.
I rewrite that to you.

Of course you arent moron, hardly any morons come from india and atleast they do not come in waves. I cant understand how someone who happens to have hurri surname can claim that he knows how things are better than you while you have lived in here some time. (boring fact, most if not almost all of indians in finland are engineers or similar or are their family members and thats quite accomplishment to do if you are moron. Of course some engineer can marry moron but since i see finnish flag too im baffled. (meaning that atleast you didnt import moron and i doubt that you married one and i know you arent one))
Theres without...

Never attacked you ( or thought about it )..
I rarely get offended..( but I dont sit silent at remarks and dont let the net rule my life. ..)
my signage : The coat of arms..reflects my journey from where I came from and where I am now.. nothing more..
The easier part was for the moron..so sorry about that confusion Onkko!!
The insignia that I have is an Indian Flag, an image of where I come from in India, An American Flag, and where I lived there..and a Finnish Flag and where I lived!! and that was what I had referred to Google if you were baffled about the Finnish Flag!!
Sopi!!

[Jazqas]

There should be some penalty for businesses who can't keep their systems uptodate and whose workers can't perform their duties efficiently.

are you kidding me that would never work! In what country, has that kinda of ridiculous system????

Actually, because of too many complaints and claims that supermarkets were trying to rob you, the main australian supermarkets adopted the policy of, if the item scans in higher than the price on the shelf (or advertisement) then you get it for free (when buying multiple items you get the first free and the rest at the proper price). I'm sure the shops lose a bit of money, but people stopped complaining.

Jazqas.

[onkko]

There should be some penalty for businesses who can't keep their systems uptodate and whose workers can't perform their duties efficiently.

are you kidding me that would never work! In what country, has that kinda of ridiculous system????

Actually, because of too many complaints and claims that supermarkets were trying to rob you, the main australian supermarkets adopted the policy of, if the item scans in higher than the price on the shelf (or advertisement) then you get it for free (when buying multiple items you get the first free and the rest at the proper price). I'm sure the shops lose a bit of money, but people stopped complaining.

Jazqas.

Finnish Valintatalo (dunno what currently) atleast had policy that if you found old product you got fresh free and same on wrong price, i dont know if it was because of mistakes or just advertising thing. I got one pack of salmon pieces free because they were bit hidden in freezer and happened to go old (my uncle tipped me) (and i was customer for years) Its like Kotipizza reception quarantee, it says others may not pay taxes.
Last time i saw price mistake was in my local r-kioski, i bought stuff and when i were almost out cashier yelled at me that he had made a mistake, come back.

[Huy]

Yeah, In some Danish shops and one I know of in California - where I lived for some time - they also had this system in wich the costumer get a free ( fresh ) product if they found a perishable item over the due date. Works well and people gets a reward for "helping" out the shop.
Regarding the stuff with wrong prices, the errors are mainly - as others has pointed out - the cashiers because they do have to input the different pricing if the specific item is lowered in price.
Mistakes happens everywhere when the different barcodes has to be re-valued in the main database every week - or day - to meet and comply with different campaigns etc. Changes of the physical pricing has to be typed by someone and that someone can input wrong numbers on the printout to be displayed.
Specialty items eg; reduced pricing wich is noted by a new stickerprice somewhere on it, is where errors tend to happen simply because the cashier fails to see it.
And changing/updating the price on a certain item in major stores, is not just to go to a PC and voila. No, it needs to be checked, verified and a permission granted from a senior manager etc to prevent internal fraud.
There is a lot to do for these shops and they make mistakes. Customers cheat by switching barcode stickers etc. so it's a mutual responsabilty that when a customer buys, he checks and when the shops sell, they check when a dispute is encountered.
Those of you who has worked as a manager in a semi large shop know how much changes there is from day to day in pricing etc.
Just my 2 eurocents.

[AldenG]

Well here's an interesting quote for people in the EU and the US to think about:

The 25% of Indians with the highest IQs is greater than the total population of the United States [N.B. or the EU, more or less].

Translation: India has more honors kids than America has kids.

That occurs at 0:25 to 0:35 in the video Did You Know?

Now that second part sent me fact-checking, and neither of those assertions can be the literal truth. Not quite, at least.

India's population is just under 4x the US population, so it would take a bit more than 25% of Indians to exceed the US population. It would take closer to 50% to exceed the EU population. (So you guys can forget the whole thing, I guess.) And given that education is far from universal in India, the "translation" is even less likely to be the literal truth.

But we latch onto these factual quibbles at the risk of missing the larger truth. What has happened to software jobs around the world attests to the power of this larger truth. There have been false alarms about that in the past, and that the moment there is another backlash against the most recent wave of sending customer support and software development to India and places like it. But the long-term reality is that India has a huge pool of highly intelligent people hungry for success, very interested in Western technology, with a strong work ethic, and not yet grown fat and complacent like America and Europe.

So this business about Europeans going around labeling the spawn of multiculturalism as "morons this" and "stupid that" takes on more than a whiff of desperation. And denial.

[micky-in-helsinki]

I agree with David.
Generalization is not a proper idea.
I know three Indians here. Two of them are cleaners while the third one works on a ship.
I think raam is one of those cleaners. He has not been moron only on this thread but on most of the times when he starts typing a comment on this site.

[umit]

In most of the posts about IQ and stupidity I observed a common mistake: You take it like IQ = Education. In other words if someone get a better education he becomes more intelligent... Well, NO! Of course there is a correlation between IQ and education, but someone without proper education may still have a high IQ, or vice versa...

This wrong perception is the most important factor that some Europeans and other western country nationals call the immigrants in their countries like moron or idiot...

Other factors would be language barrier, cultural differences, inexperience, being generalized with other genuine-moron-immigrants, etc.

In raamv's case I suppose he was exposed (maybe still being exposed) to this kind of treatment by some Finns that he developed a defense mechanism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_defens ... Mechanisms) as a consequence. It could be "Displacement", where he redirects his anger against those Finns, to the posters on this forum or "Idealization" that he is subconsciously choosing to perceive Finns as having more positive qualities than he may actually have.

And lastly, since every nation seems to claim themselves the most intelligent on the world, and/or making false assumptions that the more developed and prosperous the country, the more intelligent the people, I observed the highest moron density in the United States (The world's super power). You can run into a moron every ten meters there. There is no insult to anybody on this forum

[malongo]

this is a new low.

the unnecessary hostility that comes from certain posters here is becoming intolerable. what good is a forum if users are afraid to post?

of course that doesn't forgive posters who automatically resort to bashing one's nationality or ethnicity--they're the worst kind. but i've seen and experienced too many times the kind of automatic negative response that started this whole pathetic flame war.

i hope that if any good can come of this pathetic excuse for a thread, it will be that people will stop being so unceasingly hostile to those who are just looking to give or get some information and advice. if your only advice is to go home or get used to it, then keep it to yourself. we've all heard it before.

[sinikala]

Not that this is a pleasant topic of conversation, nor relevant to the thread, but the obvious thing that Alden missed with respect to smart kids, is the demographics of India vs. the US.

USA pop. 304 million, 74 million 0-18 yrs
25% of the US population are 18 or under
see http://www.census.gov/popest/national/a ... 008-02.xls

India pop 1169 million, 447 million 0-18 yrs
38% of the Indian Population are 18 or under
http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/ind ... stics.html

Not only a bigger population, but a much higher percentage of children, mainly due to breeding like rabbits and much lower life expectancy.

You need only the top 16.5% of Indian kids (honours you call them) to outnumber the total number of US kids.

[micky-in-helsinki]

Well, very reasonable comments from Umit (except about Americans:)) and Malongo.

The only problem ram has is his inferiority complex. If he would be impressed from Americans it would make some sence but to be impressed from finns is not so impressive.

Finns would be angry but in my opinion Finland is a developed country thanks to swedes and sweden.

Just keen to know about any great sholar, artist or scientist from Finland not having a Swedish surname? I am not talking about local heroes but international heroes.