Citizenship Application 2021

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akuno_hime_1412
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by akuno_hime_1412 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:42 pm

Mamu wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:27 am
akuno_hime_1412 wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:46 pm
NaLeKoNa wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:51 pm
Do you people really believe MIGRI makes a background check on people from those so called countries with passport reliability issues? You pay 420 euros for the citizenship application, if MIGRI wants to make background check on people from those countries, it will mean sending an official to that country to investigate as the embassies of those countries are not even present in Finland, even if they were, they can't help them with information without first sending someone to the country also to find out for them which won't be free of charge, so think of it, will MIGRI spend 500 to 1000 euros or more to investigate someone when the applicant paid 420 euros for the application?? My point is I don't believe they make any deep background check, all they could do is to make forensic investigation on your passport to ascertain if it is fake/forged, check if your names and date of birth tally from previous documents you ever had, that's all they can do which will be done in Finland by forensic investigators, then from your travel history within Europe they try to find from EU countries data if you've committed crime or any penalty over there before. Well, these are my thoughts, someone should enlighten me more if he/she disagrees or has an idea/better explanation!
Have no insight on Migri's process nor their investigation's method but here's something about costs
Maahanmuuttoviraston rahoituksesta noin 25 % katetaan hakemusten käsittelymaksuilla. Kaikissa hakemustyypeissä ei käsittelymaksuissa kuitenkaan ole mahdollista päästä omakustannushinnan tasolle, minkä vuoksi myös lupa-asioiden lisäresurssointi valtion talousarviosta on tarpeen koko suunnittelukaudella. Vuonna 2020 maksullisen toiminnan kustannusvastaavuus oli 72 %.
Yes Migri will investigating the applicant what ever it costs something you don’t know they cover that money from the government.Because their job to find a correct applicant to obtain to citizenship. 450e is not income or expense, sort of giving a baby name . That money either belongs to Migri. Migri also pay taxes and they have workers ylitarkastaja. In overseas research free of charge to the agreement made by the foreign ministe and EU free access date. You know nothing about the investigating rules. So you better to wait for the decision without mentioning anything.
that's exactly what I said :lol:



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akuno_hime_1412
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by akuno_hime_1412 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:46 pm

Mamu wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:14 am
6 month will be 25.10.2021 ( nothing changes still stage 1. anyone who applied and 5 or 6 months any stages changed?
Many thanks.
Be patient and wait for 14 months more before asking anything fellow Mamu

Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:57 pm

akuno_hime_1412 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:46 pm
Mamu wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:14 am
6 month will be 25.10.2021 ( nothing changes still stage 1. anyone who applied and 5 or 6 months any stages changed?
Many thanks.
Be patient and wait for 14 months more before asking anything fellow Mamu
İf your country on the lise not my fault 🤦‍♂️ 14 months for those Who is country on the list

akuno_hime_1412
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by akuno_hime_1412 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:01 pm

Mamu wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:57 pm
akuno_hime_1412 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:46 pm
Mamu wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:14 am
6 month will be 25.10.2021 ( nothing changes still stage 1. anyone who applied and 5 or 6 months any stages changed?
Many thanks.
Be patient and wait for 14 months more before asking anything fellow Mamu
İf your country on the lise not my fault 🤦‍♂️ 14 months for those Who is country on the list
Noupe, just quoting what the officer said to you :)
Mamu wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:54 am
Edward35 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:43 pm
Any good news from you guys, we applied this year?
Yes I have if you call them morning between 8:30 to9:00
They immediately answer to you and tell you wait processing time is 20 month could be more then that she will tell you. Better to think something else to not worry about it you will get decision when you retires 🤣🤣

PasilanKaveri
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by PasilanKaveri » Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:11 pm

Mamu wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:38 pm
PasilanKaveri wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:00 pm
Mamu wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:14 am
6 month will be 25.10.2021 ( nothing changes still stage 1. anyone who applied and 5 or 6 months any stages changed?
Many thanks.
Stage 2, with already one request of more documents satisfied in September of the last year, before, interview in April. So 1 year and half. Relax.
country on the list?
No, just European non-EU country.

SMUN
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by SMUN » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:03 pm

Champs wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:12 pm
Guys i have contacted this morning and senior advisor over phone Sonja Velasquiz has informed me that country list is still active in their backend system which means that even it has been removed from the website its still in action for processing matters. She had informed me since i am from Pakistan so currently my application is 20 months queue which soon will update to 24 months.

Currently they were processing application for 21.01.2020 ( for countries on lists) and according to that she have estimate that my application will most likely come into processing by end of next year 2022. I have no words for them because they dont listen. I have proved identity in Feb 2021 and queue situation is 3178 as of today.
24 months? :roll: :?: I am sure if they send someone to your country by foot he/she would make a couple of round trips in two years. This background check is a bad joke.

Esu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Esu » Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:43 pm

Got my decision today after 20 and a half months.

LaFino
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by LaFino » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:41 am

Esu wrote:
Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:43 pm
Got my decision today after 20 and a half months.
Congrats bro! Just got mine as well

LaFino
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by LaFino » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:50 am

I have been following this thread closely and I thought I would create an account to give the times I had

02/2021 Applied for citizenship first days of February 2021. I had a 4 year A permit on Family ties
Had the interview with migri the day after
05/2021 Applied for permanent residency based on having a permanent job since my permit would expire on 01/2022
09/2021 Had the interview with migri for residence permit
Got the positive decision a week later for the permanent permit
10/2021 Got the positive decision on my citizenship application when my queue number was 2,786

Non EU-citizen, country not on the list
Overall a bit over 8 months

Good luck to you all.

Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:25 am

LaFino wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:50 am
I have been following this thread closely and I thought I would create an account to give the times I had

02/2021 Applied for citizenship first days of February 2021. I had a 4 year A permit on Family ties
Had the interview with migri the day after
05/2021 Applied for permanent residency based on having a permanent job since my permit would expire on 01/2022
09/2021 Had the interview with migri for residence permit
Got the positive decision a week later for the permanent permit
10/2021 Got the positive decision on my citizenship application when my queue number was 2,786

Non EU-citizen, country not on the list
Overall a bit over 8 months

Good luck to you all.
Congratulations 🎊 Hi What kind the interview you had with migri may I ask if you don’t mind?

SCHOOLDROPOUT
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by SCHOOLDROPOUT » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:54 pm

Congrats Esu and LaFino!

LaFino
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by LaFino » Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:34 pm

Mamu wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:25 am
LaFino wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:50 am
I have been following this thread closely and I thought I would create an account to give the times I had

02/2021 Applied for citizenship first days of February 2021. I had a 4 year A permit on Family ties
Had the interview with migri the day after
05/2021 Applied for permanent residency based on having a permanent job since my permit would expire on 01/2022
09/2021 Had the interview with migri for residence permit
Got the positive decision a week later for the permanent permit
10/2021 Got the positive decision on my citizenship application when my queue number was 2,786

Non EU-citizen, country not on the list
Overall a bit over 8 months

Good luck to you all.
Congratulations 🎊 Hi What kind the interview you had with migri may I ask if you don’t mind?
Oh maybe interview is not the right word. I mean I went there to give my papers and they kind of check that you actually speak Finnish

tchecker221
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by tchecker221 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:56 pm

LaFino wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:50 am
I have been following this thread closely and I thought I would create an account to give the times I had

02/2021 Applied for citizenship first days of February 2021. I had a 4 year A permit on Family ties
Had the interview with migri the day after
05/2021 Applied for permanent residency based on having a permanent job since my permit would expire on 01/2022
09/2021 Had the interview with migri for residence permit
Got the positive decision a week later for the permanent permit
10/2021 Got the positive decision on my citizenship application when my queue number was 2,786

Non EU-citizen, country not on the list
Overall a bit over 8 months

Good luck to you all.
Also Got a positive decision month ago(25.08.2021).
My country was on the list.
I waited 19 months and 3 weeks.
When I received my decision my queue number was 371.

- Came in Finland in 2013 as University student from another EU country. B permit : 2.5 y.
- Since May 2016 on A.

05/01/2020 : I have applied for Citizenship via Enterfinland.fi.
07/01/2020 : Proved my identity.
My deadline was postponed several times (initially they said max 12 months then 15 then 19 then at last did not say anything anymore).

Finally, I had to applied for P permit. unfortunately, my decision came out just the following day after I paid for P permit application, so I lost around 200 euro.

In between, I went to migri and complained that it was not normal that some receive their decision in 3-8 months and other have to wait almost 2 years. Although I paid the same processing fees as everyone else, I came in Finland with a valid residence permit and passport. That I felt frustrated and discriminated and it was not normal.

2 days later after my complaint I received a txt msg asking about my income in Finland since the day of my application (01.2020).
I provided them with several pay slips from different jobs as well as my bank statement.
finally received a positive decision a day later(27.08.2021). :D

SCHOOLDROPOUT
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by SCHOOLDROPOUT » Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:37 pm

tchecker221 wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:56 pm
LaFino wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:50 am
I have been following this thread closely and I thought I would create an account to give the times I had

02/2021 Applied for citizenship first days of February 2021. I had a 4 year A permit on Family ties
Had the interview with migri the day after
05/2021 Applied for permanent residency based on having a permanent job since my permit would expire on 01/2022
09/2021 Had the interview with migri for residence permit
Got the positive decision a week later for the permanent permit
10/2021 Got the positive decision on my citizenship application when my queue number was 2,786

Non EU-citizen, country not on the list
Overall a bit over 8 months

Good luck to you all.
Also Got a positive decision month ago(25.08.2021).
My country was on the list.
I waited 19 months and 3 weeks.
When I received my decision my queue number was 371.

- Came in Finland in 2013 as University student from another EU country. B permit : 2.5 y.
- Since May 2016 on A.

05/01/2020 : I have applied for Citizenship via Enterfinland.fi.
07/01/2020 : Proved my identity.
My deadline was postponed several times (initially they said max 12 months then 15 then 19 then at last did not say anything anymore).

Finally, I had to applied for P permit. unfortunately, my decision came out just the following day after I paid for P permit application, so I lost around 200 euro.

In between, I went to migri and complained that it was not normal that some receive their decision in 3-8 months and other have to wait almost 2 years. Although I paid the same processing fees as everyone else, I came in Finland with a valid residence permit and passport. That I felt frustrated and discriminated and it was not normal.

2 days later after my complaint I received a txt msg asking about my income in Finland since the day of my application (01.2020).
I provided them with several pay slips from different jobs as well as my bank statement.
finally received a positive decision a day later(27.08.2021). :D
Interesting case and two years is quite a long time! Congrats!

akuno_hime_1412
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by akuno_hime_1412 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:57 am

Is this thread in this forum the only place where people from multiple backgrounds update and discuss about their applications?
There are certainly own forums where people from own country exchange experience but is this the only international one?


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