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Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:20 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:13 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:17 pm
You had PR 4y based on permanent job after you changed to temporary work contract while that happens,if you informed the Migri or not that’s the problem.?I think you didn’t inform them.
There is no duty for the employee to notify Migri about changes in employment status.
It’s there you just don’t want to read 😬



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Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:24 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:11 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:54 pm
This your verdict truth is hurting.When they issue 4y permit they give that based on Te-office statement,Wich it means you you must work and stay connected with work contract. here is she/He Said because of corona virus depends on who broke the employment contract in that reason they will investigate the case . All applications look like a Court cases, history must investigate bfore you have decision. (They don't write the truth, who knows what happened to the employment contract)
Te-office is not involved in the process for people with degrees from Finland.
Really ? Ok
But Who said something about degrees? Whoever if you change the status of permit B to A and that A if it’s based on work Te-office decide it.Migri is not itself. I am shame to live with you same country without knowing the rules.

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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:33 pm

Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:20 pm
betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:13 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:17 pm
You had PR 4y based on permanent job after you changed to temporary work contract while that happens,if you informed the Migri or not that’s the problem.?I think you didn’t inform them.
There is no duty for the employee to notify Migri about changes in employment status.
It’s there you just don’t want to read 😬
If you lose your job
If you have a worker’s residence permit, which only applies to working for a particular employer and you lose your job, you must apply for an entirely new worker’s residence permit or base your permit application on other grounds.

If the Finnish Immigration Service has granted you a worker’s residence permit and your employment ends before the permit, you or your employer must notify the Immigration Service in writing that employment will end.

If your worker’s residence permit has not been limited to working for a particular employer and instead applies to a specific professional field and is effective, you can switch jobs within the same field.

betelgeuse
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by betelgeuse » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:03 pm

Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:24 pm
betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:11 pm
Te-office is not involved in the process for people with degrees from Finland.
Really ? Ok
But Who said something about degrees?
The post you were replying to said:¨
Nicole T wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:14 pm
I came to Finland for studies in 2015 and graduated in 2018 (visa B).
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:20 pm
betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:13 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:17 pm
You had PR 4y based on permanent job after you changed to temporary work contract while that happens,if you informed the Migri or not that’s the problem.?I think you didn’t inform them.
There is no duty for the employee to notify Migri about changes in employment status.
It’s there you just don’t want to read 😬
I will send you 100€ in bitcoin if you can give the reference to legislation that requires it under the threat of consequences.

Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:10 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:03 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:24 pm
betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:11 pm
Te-office is not involved in the process for people with degrees from Finland.
Really ? Ok
But Who said something about degrees?
The post you were replying to said:¨
Nicole T wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:14 pm
I came to Finland for studies in 2015 and graduated in 2018 (visa B).
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:20 pm
betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:13 pm


There is no duty for the employee to notify Migri about changes in employment status.
It’s there you just don’t want to read 😬
I will send you 100€ in bitcoin if you can give the reference to legislation that requires it under the threat of consequences.
I don’t need your money ?Here is the term and condition
If you lose your job
If you have a worker’s residence permit, which only applies to working for a particular employer and you lose your job, you must apply for an entirely new worker’s residence permit or base your permit application on other grounds.

If the Finnish Immigration Service has granted you a worker’s residence permit and your employment ends before the permit, you or your employer must notify the Immigration Service in writing that employment will end.

If your worker’s residence permit has not been limited to working for a particular employer and instead applies to a specific professional field and is effective, you can switch jobs within the same field.

More information on working and running a bu

Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:18 pm

Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:10 pm
betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:03 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:24 pm

Really ? Ok
But Who said something about degrees?
The post you were replying to said:¨
Nicole T wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:14 pm
I came to Finland for studies in 2015 and graduated in 2018 (visa B).
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:20 pm

It’s there you just don’t want to read 😬
I will send you 100€ in bitcoin if you can give the reference to legislation that requires it under the threat of consequences.
I don’t need your money ?Here is the term and condition
If you lose your job
If you have a worker’s residence permit, which only applies to working for a particular employer and you lose your job, you must apply for an entirely new worker’s residence permit or base your permit application on other grounds.

If the Finnish Immigration Service has granted you a worker’s residence permit and your employment ends before the permit, you or your employer must notify the Immigration Service in writing that employment will end.

If your worker’s residence permit has not been limited to working for a particular employer and instead applies to a specific professional field and is effective, you can switch jobs within the same field.

More information on working and running a bu
Read here save 100e for yourself.

https://www.infofinland.fi/en/living-in ... yöpaikkasi

Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:26 pm

Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:18 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:10 pm
betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:03 pm


The post you were replying to said:¨





I will send you 100€ in bitcoin if you can give the reference to legislation that requires it under the threat of consequences.
I don’t need your money ?Here is the term and condition
If you lose your job
If you have a worker’s residence permit, which only applies to working for a particular employer and you lose your job, you must apply for an entirely new worker’s residence permit or base your permit application on other grounds.

If the Finnish Immigration Service has granted you a worker’s residence permit and your employment ends before the permit, you or your employer must notify the Immigration Service in writing that employment will end.

If your worker’s residence permit has not been limited to working for a particular employer and instead applies to a specific professional field and is effective, you can switch jobs within the same field.

More information on working and running a bu
Read here save 100e for yourself.

https://www.infofinland.fi/en/living-in ... yöpaikkasi
Here is more information
https://migri.fi/en/working-in-finland

Nicole T
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Nicole T » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:31 pm

Here is the term and condition
If you lose your job
If you have a worker’s residence permit, which only applies to working for a particular employer and you lose your job, you must apply for an entirely new worker’s residence permit or base your permit application on other grounds.
Hi, thanks for your info. But my visa is for those who graduated from a university in Finland, so it is "Rajattamaton " which meant that I can apply for working in any type of employers and not restricted to work in a specific employer or working field.
The thing I'm worried is that if it's okay to apply for the citizenship with the temporary contract or not :)
Last edited by Nicole T on Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.

betelgeuse
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by betelgeuse » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:44 pm

Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:26 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:18 pm
Read here save 100e for yourself.

https://www.infofinland.fi/en/living-in ... yöpaikkasi
Here is more information
https://migri.fi/en/working-in-finland
Neither of these links points to legislation. There's good reason to believe the requirement doesn't actually exist.

"Käytännössä tietoa esimerkiksi ulkomaalaisen työsuhteen päättymisestä ei tule viranomaiselle, ellei työnantaja oma-aloitteisesti ilmoita siitä, mitä tapahtuu hyvin harvoin."

https://finlex.fi/fi/esitykset/he/2019/20190018

Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:51 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:44 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:26 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:18 pm
Read here save 100e for yourself.

https://www.infofinland.fi/en/living-in ... yöpaikkasi
Here is more information
https://migri.fi/en/working-in-finland
Neither of these links points to legislation. There's good reason to believe the requirement doesn't actually exist.

"Käytännössä tietoa esimerkiksi ulkomaalaisen työsuhteen päättymisestä ei tule viranomaiselle, ellei työnantaja oma-aloitteisesti ilmoita siitä, mitä tapahtuu hyvin harvoin."

https://finlex.fi/fi/esitykset/he/2019/20190018
This link is also old post law has last update 01.01.2021

betelgeuse
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by betelgeuse » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:55 pm

Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:51 pm
betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:44 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:26 pm


Here is more information
https://migri.fi/en/working-in-finland
Neither of these links points to legislation. There's good reason to believe the requirement doesn't actually exist.

"Käytännössä tietoa esimerkiksi ulkomaalaisen työsuhteen päättymisestä ei tule viranomaiselle, ellei työnantaja oma-aloitteisesti ilmoita siitä, mitä tapahtuu hyvin harvoin."

https://finlex.fi/fi/esitykset/he/2019/20190018
This link is also old post law has last update 01.01.2021
I am not able to parse this reply. The government proposal I linked never gets outdated. It always retains its value as background material.

Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:57 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:55 pm
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:51 pm
betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:44 pm


Neither of these links points to legislation. There's good reason to believe the requirement doesn't actually exist.

"Käytännössä tietoa esimerkiksi ulkomaalaisen työsuhteen päättymisestä ei tule viranomaiselle, ellei työnantaja oma-aloitteisesti ilmoita siitä, mitä tapahtuu hyvin harvoin."

https://finlex.fi/fi/esitykset/he/2019/20190018
This link is also old post law has last update 01.01.2021
I am not able to parse this reply. The government proposal I linked never gets outdated. It always retains its value as background material.
Here have look .. https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Kasit ... +2020.aspx

betelgeuse
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by betelgeuse » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:03 am

Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:57 pm
Here have look .. https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Kasit ... +2020.aspx
How are these changes that deal with improving legal protections for asylum seekers relevant to the discussion at hand?

Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:07 am

betelgeuse wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:03 am
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:57 pm
Here have look .. https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Kasit ... +2020.aspx
How are these changes that deal with improving legal protections for asylum seekers relevant to the discussion at hand?
You only read it because you are a refugee. Also writes about labor rights and employer laws

Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2021

Post by Mamu » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:13 am

Mamu wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:07 am
betelgeuse wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:03 am
Mamu wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:57 pm
Here have look .. https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Kasit ... +2020.aspx
How are these changes that deal with improving legal protections for asylum seekers relevant to the discussion at hand?
You only read it because you are a refugee. Also writes about labor rights and employer laws
Why don’t you accept this Migri’s term and conditions?
https://migri.fi/tyopaikan-vaihtaminen


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