Upphew wrote:
Where I come from, the thing you did is called ad hominem. You can view my posting history and come back to say that I just troll and try to misuse volatile issues. Then we can agree to disagree.
I was referring to this topic and all I see is you admitting in your post:
Upphew wrote: I do use... not so roundabout expressions and I do sometimes exaggerate and try to prod people to get responses.
That is Trolling, and me pointing that out is not any ad hominem, it is off topic for sure but a reply on your reaction (which was also off topic) You might want to check the meaning of "ad hominem".
Further it would please the other readers (I think) if you would restrain yourself form these practises and react on topic. "Living in Finland as a foreigner" as we all try to do.
The only thing what I found you and oho doing (in this thread) is trying to deny (and later quasi admit) the status quo of the situation in Finland regarding Foreigners and their problems to fit in due to the xenophobic and nepotist attitude of a lot of Finns (luckily not all of them so there is still hope
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You surely (should) realize that I am not the only one (even here in this thread) with this opinion and the experiences whereon these opinions are based.
I can point out some probable reasons or causes for it (at least which I believe are contributing to the problem).
Here we go:
During the second world war, a lot of Finnish men were Fighting and away from home, this left the women alone and these had to learn real quick to take care of the family alone.
Due to this, the Finnish women emancipated real quick in taking over "normal" male tasks because they had to in order to survive.
When Finnish men came home after the war, this did not change everything back, the women did not de-emancipate, in contrary, they accelerated their emancipation, even faster than in other European countries.
Finnish men were left behind and were not able to follow the speed of change the women were going through, this caused them to become even more introvert and emotional dead.
And now we are in the future and what do we see: a very emancipated Female Finnish community where women know very well what they want and that is the biggest cause for all the domestic violence as well because the Men cannot deal with that and when the booz comes in the Men, suddenly all this cropped up anger and disappointment and frustration comes out...
But now they need other scapegoats as well...ah there are foreigners that are actually not emotional zombies, something the Finnish women like better, lets blame them for all our misery.
They steal our women...use our Tax money, all are jobless leaches....but at the same time forgetting that they all created it themselves and they are the only ones to blame...
Let me stress here that this is just a thesis (thesis + antithesis = syntheses = discussion).