Exactly my point, you think it is normal.. (You must be either a very well "assimilated" immigrant or a Fin) the "suhteet" thing is all but Linkedin, Linkedin is (suppost to be) about a professional network more like the references on your CV, nothing like a "suhteet" (f.e. the brother of the boyfriend of the sister of your future boss.... or something similar, edit: more like Facebook ). It is NOT normal.. this way you do not choose the right (best) person for the job because you limit your choice to 1 candidate hence the rest are discarded by default. "Et sic factum est"Upphew wrote:I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm saying that it is normal, universal thing. And not limited to Finland any way. Ever heard about linkedin? Effing business centered around the "suhteet" thing.Piet wrote:I guess you miss the point here: The point is the hidden discrimination on the Job market and the "suhteet" phenomenon, preventing a fair chance for foreigner workers and most important: the Finnish denying that it exists..Upphew wrote: What discrimination? One candidate is "known goods" as someone you know knows him. Same with education. How the one hiring could know every university? Should they know that 10% bachelor studies are labeled "Developing Biblical Faith and Lifestyle"? If Finns knew everything that wouldn't be a problem...
You just admitted too, that it exists, you even advocate the reason why... you don't need to, we all know the reasons why...Finnish employers should just be honest about it. Don't blame the foreigner worker for it, he tries his best to get the job.. no self respecting soul would want to be jobless...and they have the right to complain about the unfairness of the system just because it is a fact...(it might even help in some occasions to complain about it). Most immigrants also try to really learn the (some say) second hardest language in the world, the grammar is like mathematics which would be ok if there were not so much exceptions and for that matter, ever tried to get a Finn explain when and how to use the "translatiivi" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translative_case most won't know.
Oh I found another gem about Finnish culture in the Finnish newspaper: http://www.hs.fi/blogi/narrienlaiva/a1305944213082 You got to read it as you pronounce Finnish....F.e: Män först tink öpaut = man first think about... hilarious and soo true..(is my experience )