How often do you get payrise?

reindeer · Post by **reindeer** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:18 pm

Well, I've been working in Finland for years through several companies but no company actively gives me a raise, unless I threaten to quit or ask them to review my salary due to my good performance. Partly I guess this is because in my work contract, it's stated that the salary is fixed. Of course, you can always negotiate during the interview but I think it's rather difficult as companies usually don't want this. Sometimes they give me bonus if I was involved in a big project which is finished successfully. Other than that, I got maximum 10% payrise normally after a year or two when I feel it's time to ask them review my compensation. I quit in case they don't agree and I got a better offer from another company.

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Beep_Boop · Post by **Beep_Boop** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:39 pm

I haven't worked for the same company more than 2.5-3 years, so I'm probably not in the demographic to which your question is asked, but I'll give my experience anyway.
I think I got a pay rise consistently once every 6 months, except for one time when it took 1 year. It's usually somewhere between 10-15%, which isn't bad at all since it's usually twice a year. It's almost always initiated by me by talking to my direct boss, or if that doesn't work then to his boss. Once I got a significant rise of about 35% without asking, but that was because of a promotion, so I don't think it counts as a separate rise.

To be honest, I've found it a lot easier to get higher amounts in the first year in the company. Once you're there 2-3 years, then the rises become less frequent and smaller amounts. If that happens, switch companies, and rinse&repeat.

stadinslangi · Post by **stadinslangi** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:18 am

All answers here sounds very positive that you just change a company then get a big raise which is even bigger than 10% as you can also get if you negotiate with the same company.

Some people I knew from Helsinki or other smaller city got only about 1%-5% yearly to cover the inflations. I guess that would be also a norm for many.

Lucky you guys. I would like to know how you can do your work so well that out bit their expectation so much.

Beep_Boop · Post by **Beep_Boop** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:09 pm

stadinslangi wrote:Lucky you guys. I would like to know how you can do your work so well that out bit their expectation so much.

For me it's been mostly about bringing more business to the company. I get the client to buy more stuff from us, get more of the client's partners on board with us, convince the client to switch their provider and buy services from us, etc. I focus on building a personal relationship with the customer; invite them to events they like, get them tickets to some cultural happening they mentioned, business lunches in fancy places, and basically things like that. Of course, it greatly helps that they're already impressed with the technical hands-on work I do.

Once you have that kind of relationship with the customers, they keep remembering you when they're looking for new services, and they defend you in front of their partners and boss when competition comes knocking on their door. Once your boss sees that, they don't even hesitate to say yes every time you ask for a rise.

Upphew · Post by **Upphew** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:33 am

Beep_Boop wrote:
stadinslangi wrote:Lucky you guys. I would like to know how you can do your work so well that out bit their expectation so much.
For me it's been mostly about bringing more business to the company. I get the client to buy more stuff from us, get more of the client's partners on board with us, convince the client to switch their provider and buy services from us, etc. I focus on building a personal relationship with the customer; invite them to events they like, get them tickets to some cultural happening they mentioned, business lunches in fancy places, and basically things like that. Of course, it greatly helps that they're already impressed with the technical hands-on work I do.

Once you have that kind of relationship with the customers, they keep remembering you when they're looking for new services, and they defend you in front of their partners and boss when competition comes knocking on their door. Once your boss sees that, they don't even hesitate to say yes every time you ask for a rise.

Sales... the job that you can choose your own salary. Want more? Sell more.

Beep_Boop · Post by **Beep_Boop** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:24 pm

Upphew wrote:Sales... the job that you can choose your own salary. Want more? Sell more.

My job isn't sales, and it's nowhere in my job description. In fact, I was never asked nor even hinted to do sales. Mt job is completely technical and hands-on. My salary is monthly without any commission.
I just choose to persuade customers to buy more work because it brings me more interesting things to do. Of course there's the nice upside I described earlier

mdn · Post by **mdn** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:27 pm

stadinslangi wrote:Some people I knew from Helsinki or other smaller city got only about 1%-5% yearly to cover the inflations. I guess that would be also a norm for many.

To be truthful, those 1%-5% percentages are still much above an average rise.
Usually you have 0.3-0.8% rise (not every year, of course). You can check any labour union agreement to see what is considered as usual rise.

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