And you couldn't find that fact on yle? Strange, what were you complaining about?irnbru wrote:The only fact that concerns me us the fact 2 people are dead.
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He's complaining about what every Finn should be complaining about - Pi&&-poor reporting ny YLE and shoving our tax money down a ratholewhat were you complaining about?
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Some of the early reports [1] created the impression the mother who got stabbed while she was pushing her baby in a stroller would have been one of the two fatalities. (Police had only identified the fatalities as two female Finnish citizens and have not revealed any identifiable details of the injured-but-alive victims either, so there was not much for the media to go on.)
Italian papers have now been reporting the mother in fact survived, and is an Italian citizen who has been living in Finland for some years, working as a researcher at a university (of Turku?). She remains hospitalized but apparently in a non-critical condition:
http://www.corriere.it/esteri/17_agosto ... 7363.shtml
http://www.corriere.it/cronache/17_agos ... resh_ce-cp
http://www.lanazione.it/arezzo/cronaca/ ... -1.3342415
The two latter stories would also seem to suggest she has previously been participating in the “STOP DEPORTATIONS” / “RIGHT TO LIVE” demonstrations — of which there have been many in Finland at various places, including the Helsinki-Vantaa airport — protesting the deportation of asylum seekers whose asylum application Migri have rejected.
According to police, the attacker had been “participating in the asylum application process”. According to a source interviewed by MTV3, the suspect’s application for asylum had been rejected.
Aamulehti reports the members of the local Moroccan community in Turku telling the man had been posing as a Palestinian to the authorities despite actually being a Moroccan citizen, but Migri did not fall for it.
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[1] Not specifically by YLE but the Finnish media in general.
Italian papers have now been reporting the mother in fact survived, and is an Italian citizen who has been living in Finland for some years, working as a researcher at a university (of Turku?). She remains hospitalized but apparently in a non-critical condition:
http://www.corriere.it/esteri/17_agosto ... 7363.shtml
http://www.corriere.it/cronache/17_agos ... resh_ce-cp
http://www.lanazione.it/arezzo/cronaca/ ... -1.3342415
The two latter stories would also seem to suggest she has previously been participating in the “STOP DEPORTATIONS” / “RIGHT TO LIVE” demonstrations — of which there have been many in Finland at various places, including the Helsinki-Vantaa airport — protesting the deportation of asylum seekers whose asylum application Migri have rejected.
According to police, the attacker had been “participating in the asylum application process”. According to a source interviewed by MTV3, the suspect’s application for asylum had been rejected.
Aamulehti reports the members of the local Moroccan community in Turku telling the man had been posing as a Palestinian to the authorities despite actually being a Moroccan citizen, but Migri did not fall for it.
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[1] Not specifically by YLE but the Finnish media in general.
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More than half of the injured are not kantasuomalaiset. The injured refered as Swede and British are also not ethnic Europeans. One injured lady is off Syrian origin.
I don't know why nobody is talking about the fact that it took more than 15 minutes for the ambulance to reach the victims. How is it even possible while the incident happened right in the centre of the city. The older lady died in the ambulance. I wonder had she still died if the ambulance had arrived in 4-5 minutes?
They stated in the first press conference that first call was made at 16:02. Attacker was in police custody at 16:05 and ambulance was at the scene at 16:20.
I don't know why nobody is talking about the fact that it took more than 15 minutes for the ambulance to reach the victims. How is it even possible while the incident happened right in the centre of the city. The older lady died in the ambulance. I wonder had she still died if the ambulance had arrived in 4-5 minutes?
They stated in the first press conference that first call was made at 16:02. Attacker was in police custody at 16:05 and ambulance was at the scene at 16:20.
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The two main hospitals are not more than 2-3 km from the city centre in Turku. Ambulance should have arrived in less than 5 minutes. It shouldn't be difficult for an ambulance to reach the centre in 10-12 minutes even from the farthest parts of the city.
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I don't know about 'no one' --
but I would surely expect the news organization (YLE) that I and other Finns are financing would be covering that!I don't know why nobody is talking about the fact that it took more than 15 minutes for the ambulance to reach the victims. How is it even possible while the incident happened right in the centre of the city.
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Afaik they don't send ambulances on site that isn't secured. It might take 5 minutes to drive there, but they won't until police says that it is safe to do so.Honest wrote:The two main hospitals are not more than 2-3 km from the city centre in Turku. Ambulance should have arrived in less than 5 minutes. It shouldn't be difficult for an ambulance to reach the centre in 10-12 minutes even from the farthest parts of the city.
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Good point - wonder why YLE didn't tell us that.
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According to verkkouuutiset.fi it took 4½ minutes for the first ambulance to get there after they got the task.Upphew wrote:Afaik they don't send ambulances on site that isn't secured. It might take 5 minutes to drive there, but they won't until police says that it is safe to do so.Honest wrote:The two main hospitals are not more than 2-3 km from the city centre in Turku. Ambulance should have arrived in less than 5 minutes. It shouldn't be difficult for an ambulance to reach the centre in 10-12 minutes even from the farthest parts of the city.
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https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9788179harryc wrote:but I would surely expect the news organization (YLE) that I and other Finns are financing would be covering that!
Every case is unique. You can't measure the result of your application based on arbitrary anecdotes online.
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ok -good - at last -- didn't show up till 13:14 today
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Maybe before every one is stumbling over each other, one should read the following and do some self reflection.
https://medium.com/the-mission/the-enem ... 86511488de
Just saying...
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Just saying...
If god would give us the source code, we could change the world
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I'm not reading something by someone called "Tobias" with a double barreled surname
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Anyone who would have the sense to take account of what's in the article, already knows everything that's in the article.
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Agreed, I did not find anything in there that I did not know already, but because some of the people on this forum are not as well educated as you and me, or otherwise lack the knowledge and understanding of such, I wanted to be helpful and provide them with some insightharryc wrote:Anyone who would have the sense to take account of what's in the article, already knows everything that's in the article.
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