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Benderis
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Car with LPG gas

Post by Benderis » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:30 am

Does anyone know if laws changed and cars with LPG gas are allowed in Finland ? I seen some topics here from 2014 and 2011 so I think maybe something changed in this time. to bring car from EU is there any extra tax for LPG and is there any other extra tax for the roads if car has LPG. If it's not illegal anymore does some gas stations already sell gas. I see Neste promote LPG better as gasoline https://www.neste.com/sites/default/files/709112.pdf .


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Re: Car with LPG gas

Post by Ligence » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:21 am

There's not a lot of information on LPG as vehicle fuel in Finland online, but I would've expected to have heard of any such change. From what I've read and heard, a car that runs on LPG cannot be registered here, and if caught using it as fuel, the penalty may be thousands of euros.

Best to ask either Traficom directly or one of the vehicle inspection offices. Do post any response here, please.

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Re: Car with LPG gas

Post by Upphew » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:41 am

Ligence wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:21 am
There's not a lot of information on LPG as vehicle fuel in Finland online, but I would've expected to have heard of any such change. From what I've read and heard, a car that runs on LPG cannot be registered here, and if caught using it as fuel, the penalty may be thousands of euros.

Best to ask either Traficom directly or one of the vehicle inspection offices. Do post any response here, please.
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Re: Car with LPG gas

Post by Ligence » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:12 pm

Upphew wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:41 am
330€/day. https://www.traficom.fi/fi/liikenne/tie ... oainemaksu
The monetary amount sounds familiar, but it doesn't specifically mention LPG/kaasu/nestekaasu/propaani on the site.

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Re: Car with LPG gas

Post by Benderis » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:46 pm

Ok. I got reply yesterday from Trafi
Hello,

Using LPG (Liquefied Petroleum Gas) for passenger cars and vans is prohibited in Finland. Fuel fee law 6§ says: only methane fuel is allowed for passenger cars and vans in Finland. LPG (Liquefied Petroleum Gas) is propane (or mix of propane and butane) and using it is prohibited.

LPG-equipment itself is not prohibited but if you drive whit Liquefied Petroleum Gas fuel fee for passenger car is 330€/day and for van 500€/day (Fuel fee law 9 §). For example if you have LPG-equipment and it is found that there is liquefied Petroleum Gas it is impossible you to show that you have not used it. If car is found to use fuel that causes fuel fee then the fuel fee is generally levied for each monitoring instance with a 30 per cent surcharge for 20 days. If the use subject to the fuel fee can be reliably shown, based on other samples, to have lasted longer than 20 days, the fuel fee can be charged for a longer period of time.

Examples of the size of the fuel fee:
A passenger car registered in Finland which a fuel sample shows to have been using fuel oil.
The fuel fee is generally levied with a 30 per cent surcharge for 20 days. The amount of the fuel fee to be levied is thus 8,580 Euros (330 € x 20 x 1.3).

There is some gasum refill stations in Finland because some other cars than passenger cars and vans are allowed to use LPG.


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Re: Car with LPG gas

Post by VSPerkele » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:57 pm

What about cars with LNG????
VW and SKODA are selling cars with factory installed LNG fuel systems. These cars can work on Gasoline or LNG.

Is it banned? If yes, can I drive such car without using LNG as fuel and while only using my gasoline tank?

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Re: Car with LPG gas

Post by riku2 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:31 pm

VW and SKODA are selling cars with factory installed LNG fuel systems. These cars can work on Gasoline or LNG.
The reply from Trafi basically says you can drive this kind of car so long as there is no LNG fuel in the tank. If there is fuel in the tank then it's impossible to know if you've driven using it, and so the amazingly high fuel "fee". The law makers have not bothered to put in a taxation regime for LNG used by cars (based on low numbers of them used in Finland). Probably it would change if there were more cars like that, in the way that taxation on electric cars eventually changed (although many many years behind countries like Norway). The main goal of the government in Finland is to limit the total number of cars (or "passenger cars" as they sometimes refer to them) on the road and encourage people to use public transport, only reluctantly do they do things to lower the cost - even if those would encourage more environmentally friendly "private cars".


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