Citizenship Application 2020

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F_S
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by F_S » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:16 pm

My assumption is somebody's homecountry can affect her processing time, as states' information sharing on Migri's probable background checks differ from each other. It's quite reasonable to assume an EU state, for example, responds faster and more reliably than a state outside the block. Migri needs to wait for other entities to respond before it can make a decision, I reckon.



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maskara
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by maskara » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:43 pm

F_S wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:16 pm
My assumption is somebody's homecountry can affect her processing time, as states' information sharing on Migri's probable background checks differ from each other. It's quite reasonable to assume an EU state, for example, responds faster and more reliably than a state outside the block. Migri needs to wait for other entities to respond before it can make a decision, I reckon.
That can be true on the stage of “in progress”. However everybody’s application is waiting on stage 1 “waiting for processing” which means nobody has checked the file since you proved your identity. So, migri is just having the worst service and unsuccessful management.

Salman.Saleem
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by Salman.Saleem » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:30 pm

I agree that in case migri is waiting for the response from the home country than an application must be *in progress' stage. Stage 1 waiting for processing mean's nobody has touched the application since the identity is proved.

tybrrhmn
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by tybrrhmn » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:15 pm

Does anybody knows, can I apply for citizenship without Finnish language test ? is there any excuse !!!!

Maaria
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by Maaria » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:20 pm

tybrrhmn wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:15 pm
Does anybody knows, can I apply for citizenship without Finnish language test ? is there any excuse !!!!
You can find detail information about the position requirement for citizenship application here:

https://migri.fi/en/language-skills

callmybbc
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by callmybbc » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:41 pm

Salman.Saleem wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:07 pm
Can't say anything about dealy in processing of applications. What I learned from this forum is that applicants who are waiting for more than one year written to migri and Migri say that processing time will be 14 to 16 months. Although the time calculator still shows 10-12 months. You may consider writing migri and ask that your application cross 12 months so when you have decision. I know waiting is frustrating. I pray we all get decision soon. Just write migri if your application crossed 12 months and see what they say. Let me know what migri reply. Stay positive


I found this email: "[email protected]" for residence permit applicants...I'd like to know if they used the same email for citizenship applicants.

Udbest
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by Udbest » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:42 am

callmybbc wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:41 pm
Salman.Saleem wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:07 pm
Can't say anything about dealy in processing of applications. What I learned from this forum is that applicants who are waiting for more than one year written to migri and Migri say that processing time will be 14 to 16 months. Although the time calculator still shows 10-12 months. You may consider writing migri and ask that your application cross 12 months so when you have decision. I know waiting is frustrating. I pray we all get decision soon. Just write migri if your application crossed 12 months and see what they say. Let me know what migri reply. Stay positive


I found this email: "[email protected]" for residence permit applicants...I'd like to know if they used the same email for citizenship applicants.
They use this email: “[email protected]”for citizenship.

Moheb
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by Moheb » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:41 am

Hi,
to apply for citizenship, there is a compulsory attachment called ''Selvitys muutosta Suomessa tai ulkomailla''. Does anyone knows what that attachment is? is it form KAN1?

pentosa
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by pentosa » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:14 pm

Moheb wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:41 am
Hi,
to apply for citizenship, there is a compulsory attachment called ''Selvitys muutosta Suomessa tai ulkomailla''. Does anyone knows what that attachment is? is it form KAN1?
It's a free-form explanation, if you haven't registered all of your moving within Finland and abroad in Maistratti. You just need to write where you lived during that time and possible explanation why you didn't do the notification of move.
Like:

1.01.2015- 6.02.2015 - Hallituskatu 10 A1 00100 - Reason for not registering

Moheb
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by Moheb » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:05 pm

pentosa wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:14 pm
Moheb wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:41 am
Hi,
to apply for citizenship, there is a compulsory attachment called ''Selvitys muutosta Suomessa tai ulkomailla''. Does anyone knows what that attachment is? is it form KAN1?
It's a free-form explanation, if you haven't registered all of your moving within Finland and abroad in Maistratti. You just need to write where you lived during that time and possible explanation why you didn't do the notification of move.
Like:

1.01.2015- 6.02.2015 - Hallituskatu 10 A1 00100 - Reason for not registering
Thanks so much for your response. The point is that I have moved many times from a house to another within one city and cannot remember the address of those houses. However, I am pretty sure that I have registered all of my addresses throughout my residence in maisteratti. Do I need to mention the addresses or it's just enough to declare that my addresses were registered?

betelgeuse
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by betelgeuse » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:08 pm

Moheb wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:41 am
Hi,
to apply for citizenship, there is a compulsory attachment called ''Selvitys muutosta Suomessa tai ulkomailla''. Does anyone knows what that attachment is? is it form KAN1?
It's not compulsory on the paper form. I haven't checked but would be weird if the online form didn't follow the same logic.

https://migri.fi/documents/5202425/5786 ... 8fi%29.pdf

gingerbreadass
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by gingerbreadass » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:07 pm

Hey guys!

Just a quick question here. I've seen on several citizenship threads that apparently Migri (or other responsible authority) do background checks on citizenship applicants by contacting their home country authorities or something like that. Does anybody on here know what exactly they check? What can be the basis for a negative decision?

pentosa
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by pentosa » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:38 am

Moheb wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:05 pm
pentosa wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:14 pm
Moheb wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:41 am
Hi,
to apply for citizenship, there is a compulsory attachment called ''Selvitys muutosta Suomessa tai ulkomailla''. Does anyone knows what that attachment is? is it form KAN1?
It's a free-form explanation, if you haven't registered all of your moving within Finland and abroad in Maistratti. You just need to write where you lived during that time and possible explanation why you didn't do the notification of move.
Like:

1.01.2015- 6.02.2015 - Hallituskatu 10 A1 00100 - Reason for not registering
Thanks so much for your response. The point is that I have moved many times from a house to another within one city and cannot remember the address of those houses. However, I am pretty sure that I have registered all of my addresses throughout my residence in maisteratti. Do I need to mention the addresses or it's just enough to declare that my addresses were registered?

You can check all of your address and other personal information here https://www.suomi.fi/your-data/personal-data with your bank codes.

Also, this form is indeed not compulsory. In EnterFinland it is required only if you click "I haven't notified all my moving" or something

Salman.Saleem
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Re: Citizenship Application 2020

Post by Salman.Saleem » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:18 pm

Today I received this automated email from migri. This type of email I receive every 12 week but no changes in application status i. e. Waiting for processing

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Ilmoita mistä olet saanut toimeentulosi hakemuksesi jättämisen jälkeen.
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Muistathan, että sinulla pitää olla voimassaoleva oleskelulupa ja matkustusasiakirja koko kansalaisuushakemuksen käsittelyn ajan. Hae uutta oleskelulupaa ja matkustusasiakirjaa ajoissa, jos niiden voimassaolo on päättymässä. Voit täydentää hakemustasi tiedolla uudesta matkustusasiakirjastasi Enter Finland -tililläsi.
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Lisäksi löydät hakemusten odotettavissa olevan käsittelyajan verkkosivuiltamme https://migri.fi/kasittelyajat. Jos verkkosivuillamme antamamme odotettavissa oleva käsittelyaika ei ole vielä ylittynyt oman asiasi kohdalla, odota rauhassa.

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