Citizenship Application 2020

[Doncod]

Congratulations man.
one question: did you check your queue number with Kamu prior to this?

I just became a Finnish few minutes ago.....
Here is my timeline:

19/12/2019 We have received the processing fee for your application. (€380)
19/12/2019 We have received your application and it is pending.
12/02/2020 You have proved your identity and a diary number has been created for your application. You can see the diary number at the top of the page. Your application has been placed in the processing queue. We will contact you if we need more information from you. Our processing times can be found on our website at www.migri.fi
19/06/2020 You have sent additional information for the application. We have received it. The documents you sent are displayed in the application information.

14/09/2020 You have sent additional information for the application. We have received it. The documents you sent are displayed in the application information.

03/11/2020 You have sent additional information for the application. We have received it. The documents you sent are displayed in the application information.

12/11/2020 You have sent additional information for the application. We have received it. The documents you sent are displayed in the application information.

24/11/2020 Your application is waiting for your reply to a request for supplementary information.
24/11/2020 You have replied to a request for supplementary information.
24/11/2020 You have sent additional information for the application. We have received it. The documents you sent are displayed in the application information.

29/11/2020 You have sent additional information for the application. We have received it. The documents you sent are displayed in the application information.

30/11/2020 A decision has been made on your application.
30/11/2020 The decision can be read on your user account.
30/11/2020 The processing of your application has started. Contacting us does not speed up the processing of the application. If we need further information from you, we will send you a request through this service.


**** I wish everyone expecting a decision all the best, endurance is the key ******

Yea I checked my queue number on many occasions, I had about 1180 applications before me. I think the queue system doesn't depict when exactly you get decision.

[petbek-125]

When did you applied? Are you also from Nigeria ? Thanks

Yea I came to Finland as a student, so had B permit.

Same here, thanks for answer!

Only 2 and half months ago,
no, i am Egyptian

[maskara]

So you have applied 2.5 months ago and already in stage 2?

When did you applied? Are you also from Nigeria ? Thanks

Same here, thanks for answer!

Only 2 and half months ago,
no, i am Egyptian

[rebvar]

I applied 1 month ago and i have been in stage 2 for three weeks now.

I know why my case went to stage two though. My wife applied before me and my application went to stage two, the same day she received her decision.

So you have applied 2.5 months ago and already in stage 2?

When did you applied? Are you also from Nigeria ? Thanks

Only 2 and half months ago,
no, i am Egyptian

[maskara]

Regardless of what, that is ridiculously unfair. Well, you don’t expect anything fair from migri anyway. Such a corrupt office.

I applied 1 month ago and i have been in stage 2 for three weeks now.

I know why my case went to stage two though. My wife applied before me and my application went to stage two, the same day she received her decision.

So you have applied 2.5 months ago and already in stage 2?

Only 2 and half months ago,
no, i am Egyptian

[rebvar]

I do not think this is at all related to when one gets the decision. This is an automated process most probably that is triggered for all family members once one of them receives a decision. I do not think that even the queue number in kamu is relevant and I think you can get a decision while you are 1000 or 2000 in the queue, because queue is not the only factor.


A friend of mine was in the second stage for if I remember correctly 5 months before receiving the decision.

Regardless of what, that is ridiculously unfair. Well, you don’t expect anything fair from migri anyway. Such a corrupt office.

I applied 1 month ago and i have been in stage 2 for three weeks now.

I know why my case went to stage two though. My wife applied before me and my application went to stage two, the same day she received her decision.

So you have applied 2.5 months ago and already in stage 2?

[petbek-125]

So you have applied 2.5 months ago and already in stage 2?

When did you applied? Are you also from Nigeria ? Thanks

Only 2 and half months ago,
no, i am Egyptian

WHo said i am in stage 2, I never said so.
Dude chill! If something annoying is taking long time from your life, you shouldnt let it take you energy and peace of mind as well.
You should focus ur time and energy on getting something else done other than that.watched pot doesnt boil.

[maskara]

You dont even know what you are talking about. check your posts once again. Im not gonna further discuss with you. apparently you haven’t been integrated to europe well enough. cheers

So you have applied 2.5 months ago and already in stage 2?

Only 2 and half months ago,
no, i am Egyptian

WHo said i am in stage 2, I never said so.
Dude chill! If something annoying is taking long time from your life, you shouldnt let it take you energy and peace of mind as well.
You should focus ur time and energy on getting something else done other than that.watched pot doesnt boil.

[petbek-125]

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[petbek-125]

You dont even know what you are talking about. check your posts once again. Im not gonna further discuss with you. apparently you haven’t been integrated to europe well enough. cheers

So you have applied 2.5 months ago and already in stage 2?

WHo said i am in stage 2, I never said so.
Dude chill! If something annoying is taking long time from your life, you shouldnt let it take you energy and peace of mind as well.
You should focus ur time and energy on getting something else done other than that.watched pot doesnt boil.

Get some help!

[petbek-125]

I do not think this is at all related to when one gets the decision. This is an automated process most probably that is triggered for all family members once one of them receives a decision. I do not think that even the queue number in kamu is relevant and I think you can get a decision while you are 1000 or 2000 in the queue, because queue is not the only factor.


A friend of mine was in the second stage for if I remember correctly 5 months before receiving the decision.

Regardless of what, that is ridiculously unfair. Well, you don’t expect anything fair from migri anyway. Such a corrupt office.

I applied 1 month ago and i have been in stage 2 for three weeks now.

I know why my case went to stage two though. My wife applied before me and my application went to stage two, the same day she received her decision.

Just a friendly advice, don´t bother explaining and save your time.

[gingerbreadass]

Hey guys
I just logged in into my EnterFinland acc and it shows that I have zero applications pending / within the system. Is anyone having the same issue right now?

[petbek-125]

Hey guys
I just logged in into my EnterFinland acc and it shows that I have zero applications pending / within the system. Is anyone having the same issue right now?

It shows error message to me. You might wanna check this announcement:
https://migri.fi/-/katkos-verkkopalvelussa

[NukkuMatti]

Hi everyone.

I truly hope a lot of you have gotten their desired piece of paper this year after I started this topic at the beginning of the year.

To conclude my story and this topic here:

I started my application this year and filled in on enter Finland web-page all required information and added the needed documents and I made a reservation at Migri to show my passport and language test results.

Then Covid-19 happened and due to the extreme high risk of my wife because of her cancer, I cancelled the appointment at Migri and put my application on hold (did not pay yet).

Then last September my wife died, not of the covid-19 but of the cancer we have been fighting for 3,5 years, this changed all.

I cancelled and deleted my application and newly made appointment at Migri again, now because accepting / acquiring the Finnish citizenship would mean I would need to give up my own country's citizenship, because I am no longer married (widower) (my own countries laws).

So I will remain a foreigner in this hostile environment forever or at least until all my kids are grown up and can manage their own life.

Leaves me to wish you all who are still waiting for a decision, the best of luck.
Although I do ask myself, why anyone would want to live here without being tied to this foreigner hating country (PS went up again in the polls) by marriage or family anyway.
If I had the choice, I would be gone: 10 years of teasing by Kekkonen era educated Finns as neighbours, sidelined from the working force by the prevalent "suhteet principle" in job economics regardless of your skills, being used as a slave by the system of free employment (työharjoitelu / työkokeilu) without the prospect of ever gaining full employment (illegal), the utter rudeness of the majority of the people around you, the tasteless food and the sheer evilness of family when it concerns inheritances... and last but not least, the f%#¤% language. No this would not be my choice to stay here...
However the wet (instead of dry and freezing) weather becomes more and more like feeling at my home country

P.S. and yes after 10 years, I do no longer feel Finland is my "home" country.... exactly why I did not want to give up my own original citizenship.

For all of you: stay safe and all the best...have safe holidays and a better 2021 for everyone

[petbek-125]

Hi everyone.

I truly hope a lot of you have gotten their desired piece of paper this year after I started this topic at the beginning of the year.

To conclude my story and this topic here:

I started my application this year and filled in on enter Finland web-page all required information and added the needed documents and I made a reservation at Migri to show my passport and language test results.

Then Covid-19 happened and due to the extreme high risk of my wife because of her cancer, I cancelled the appointment at Migri and put my application on hold (did not pay yet).

Then last September my wife died, not of the covid-19 but of the cancer we have been fighting for 3,5 years, this changed all.

I cancelled and deleted my application and newly made appointment at Migri again, now because accepting / acquiring the Finnish citizenship would mean I would need to give up my own country's citizenship, because I am no longer married (widower) (my own countries laws).

So I will remain a foreigner in this hostile environment forever or at least until all my kids are grown up and can manage their own life.

Leaves me to wish you all who are still waiting for a decision, the best of luck.
Although I do ask myself, why anyone would want to live here without being tied to this foreigner hating country (PS went up again in the polls) by marriage or family anyway.
If I had the choice, I would be gone: 10 years of teasing by Kekkonen era educated Finns as neighbours, sidelined from the working force by the prevalent "suhteet principle" in job economics regardless of your skills, being used as a slave by the system of free employment (työharjoitelu / työkokeilu) without the prospect of ever gaining full employment (illegal), the utter rudeness of the majority of the people around you, the tasteless food and the sheer evilness of family when it concerns inheritances... and last but not least, the f%#¤% language. No this would not be my choice to stay here...
However the wet (instead of dry and freezing) weather becomes more and more like feeling at my home country

P.S. and yes after 10 years, I do no longer feel Finland is my "home" country.... exactly why I did not want to give up my own original citizenship.

For all of you: stay safe and all the best...have safe holidays and a better 2021 for everyone

I am sorry for your loss! I feel also sorry for your bad experience of Finland.
However, i must say that migrating comes with a lot of problems always. In each first world country there are barriers and obstacles to disable the migrant or at least slow him down. This is without any exception.

If we give examples in Switzerland it would take 10 years to get citizenship and for certain international jobs NOT even after ten years a migrant would get citizenship. In Norway it takes seven years...., etc.
Another example there are in majority of countries more legal obstacles to employment than in Finland. In USA a foreign student wouldnt be allowed to work while in Finland its possible (tbh it can be done but its very restricted and problematic). Many countries wouldnt wait on an international student a year after graduation to get a job.
Another thin is language, there isnt a country that wouldnt demand from you to know its language to gain better access to employment and citizenship. I mean in Germany it would be german language while in France it would be french, but still a language will need to be learnt. Ofcourse one may think that English speaking country is the solution, but if its easy language its easy for many others also, which leads to more competition, skyrocketing housing prices,...etc.
Another example is the social welfare benefits that are available generously to all here in Finland, but thats not always the case elsewhere. In australia access to social security benefits is generally restricted to people who are Australian permanent residents or citizens residing permanently in Australia.
If a wealthy developed country is kinda "close minded" like Finland, it means less competition and more benefits to the ones who make it (social benefits, very low housing prices as compared to NY sydney london, free university education....etc)

The list on the hussle of a migrant goes on and on. Simply we do not live in a highly globalized world order yet, so if one shall not like, better stay home. That is sad but true.
If one migrate, one shall armed with persistence and a positive mind set, for success is possible in any developed first world country despite the variable difficulties.